TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2011, 06:25:53 am » |
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Yeah look at what giving your banks as much freedom as they wanted brought you.
i never said that giving people freedom was a good idea. i just sayd that iceland was the real free land. :þ |
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« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2011, 06:27:58 am » |
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erm,guys,you know that there are no such things as 'freedom of speech' ,nor 'democracy' nor even 'freedom' which americans are so proud of.You are constantly being limited,and more and more freedoms are taken from you,and you even dont see it.
I'd say Americans have much when it comes to Freedom of Speech (Westboro Baptist Church anyone? Fox news?), but when it comes to democracy... The "democracy" in the USA is just one big joke on the populations expense. |
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Demon posession is real and it's not funny, it's the creepiest thing you will ever experience.
I would also like to add I watch fox news everyday all day and will continue to watch it while being proud of that fact. I'm sure you enjoy your communist news network just as much.
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« Reply #22 on: May 25, 2011, 06:28:29 am » |
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i never said that giving people freedom was a good idea.
i just sayd that iceland was the real free land. :þ
There ain't much freedom to be had in poverty  |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2011, 06:31:46 am » |
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There ain't much freedom to be had in poverty why do you think i am poor? sure i still havent been able to get a job but i still live with my parents in a quite nice house. only the peope who took retarded loans are poor now and in my opinion deserve it a little due to they took all thelones and yet make the rest pay for them. ps: i am 17 |
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« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2011, 06:34:15 am » |
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why do you think i am poor?
sure i still havent been able to get a job but i still live with my parents in a quite nice house.
only the peope who took retarded loans are poor now and in my opinion deserve it a little due to they took all thelones and yet make the rest pay for them.
ps: i am 17
And what, you are the people of Iceland? You're their king or something xD? |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2011, 06:36:25 am » |
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Dude what?
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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2011, 06:55:50 am » |
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Dude what?
"i just sayd that iceland was the real free land. :þ" You said Iceland, not the person IcelandicManiac. Only kings and queens can talk about themselves interchangeable with the country (pluralis majestatis) |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2011, 07:01:18 am » |
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"i just sayd that iceland was the real free land. :þ"
You said Iceland, not the person IcelandicManiac.
Only kings and queens can talk about themselves interchangeable with the country (pluralis majestatis)
 well no i am no king of iceland but i do intend on becoming an IcelandicDictator one day. Icelandic dictator was the nickname i used before theicelandicmaniac Never the less i do think that iceland is one of the most free countrys around and i do hope it stays like that. |
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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2011, 07:11:37 am » |
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Freedom of speech should not be used as an excuse for racism and other forms of intolerance.
Tolerance stops where it requires us to be tolerant of people who preach intolerance.
True freedom of speech would mean that racism and other forms of intolerance are meaningless. Only a true enlightened society would not take offence at a word |
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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2011, 07:13:22 am » |
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Only a true enlightened society would not take offence at a word
More like, A True enlightened society wouldn't use the words  |
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« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2011, 07:45:50 am » |
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True freedom of speech would mean that racism and other forms of intolerance are meaningless.
Only a true enlightened society would not take offence at a word
Only a society without humans would not take offence at a word. |
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shockcoil
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« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2011, 08:06:20 am » |
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Mill's Harm Principle and Libertarianism is a good place to start, you may also want to check out Utilitarianism briefly. There's also some good case law on the subject relating to the European Convention of Human Rights if that's relevant to your essay, in fact the ECHR is a good reference even if it is out of your jurisdiction. You may also want to look at the Social Contract theory with the works of Hobbe and Locke as a counterpoint. I'm not gonna go into much detail because it's your essay but basically they [Hobbe in particular] are arguing that the individual gives up his rights and power to the state in return for protection.
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Smokaz
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« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2011, 08:10:30 am » |
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Demon, if you are not finished with your essay already and still can change it or include new stuff, you should write why freedom of speech is adverse. Take the viewpoint of the secret police, the information controllers, the government. Talk about subjects such as stock prices, public uprising and the positive aspects of controlling information. Also what David said is pretty useful. This is a pretty rock star assignment, shouldn't be hard.
Locke > Hobbes as far as being related to the assignment
It's much more convenient to write about how total free speech is a good thing and a democratic value compared to speaking for moderation of public debate. Adding the opposing view is always A material.
Take China for example. They have a very different opinion on the value of free speech. What makes them think their take on things is needed or superior?
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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2011, 08:42:15 am » |
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well no i am no king of iceland but i do intend on becoming an IcelandicDictator one day. Icelandic dictator was the nickname i used before theicelandicmaniac Never the less i do think that iceland is one of the most free countrys around and i do hope it stays like that. not if 'Laki' wakes up again  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LakiVolcanic Eruption in Grimsvotn, Iceland May 21 2011 -so gorgeous,yet so deadly http://vimeo.com/24084400 |
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« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2011, 08:48:56 am » |
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Yer i have yet to begin my actual body, im compiling the research, so far ive got around 5000 words of useful evidence. i will look into hobbe (although that name soudns so familiar, i think i learnt about the guy in psychology human behaviour) But yes, those are very useful ideas Smokaz, Thankyou, i will look into it today after i wake up (1am)
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« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2011, 09:08:52 am » |
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More like, A True enlightened society wouldn't use the words Exactly, because the words would cease to have any meaning |
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #36 on: May 25, 2011, 09:16:21 am » |
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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2011, 09:17:21 am » |
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Yellowstone tbh
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TheIcelandicManiac
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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2011, 09:21:01 am » |
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Yellowstone tbh
hahahahah you guys are fucked if that blows up supervolcanos are allways deadly so yea |
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shockcoil
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« Reply #39 on: May 25, 2011, 09:28:37 am » |
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Fuck you Iceland and your fucking volcanoes. Keep that shit to yourselves, you're ruining it for the rest of Europe. More importantly, you're ruining my fucking flight. If I don't get to leave on Thursday I swear I'm going to hurt you.
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