Smokaz
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« on: June 13, 2011, 11:21:40 pm » |
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Ever considered adding a LOS nerf to units inside smoke?
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2011, 11:25:45 pm » |
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 11:27:53 pm » |
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2011, 11:30:15 pm » |
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So in effect you'll be blinding assault troops who are taking on a defensive position? Kind of seems silly to blind your own men to attack a fortified position... and they already take the accuracy penalty on top of that.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 02:24:13 am » |
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land smoke on enemy then? ----> profit |
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 02:29:38 am » |
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Ever considered adding a LOS nerf to units inside smoke?
Then they wouldn't be able to shoot inf outside smoke because you wouldn't see them and this is the main purpose of smoke. Just fix the smoke accuracy modifiers so smoke is not a plasma shield, it should be a small modifier like from vets and doctrines 20% or something like that, a mobile cover. |
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 06:37:07 am » |
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actully nug i would say the main purpose of smoke is for movment. Put smoke on an mg, flank around it out of the smoke and fire. Or infront of an mg and flank around it. The only units that can fire in the smoke effectivly are flamers and RRs
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 07:34:31 am » |
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The only units that can fire in the smoke effectivly are flamers and RRs
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 07:57:28 am » |
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+arty+mortars :p
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 11:33:46 am » |
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never thought of that, would be a great idea. would make incredibly more useful and tactical.reduce los by like half once you enter the smoke.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 11:49:18 am » |
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Cool idea
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 12:28:18 pm » |
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Make smoke a complet sideline blocker |
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 05:09:26 pm » |
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I don't think it should be a huge modifier though.
Smoke is already VERY powerful to those who know how to use it.
88 trolling your day?
Smoke offmap and move in with avre and troops and use AVRE to decrew, then use troops to capture the mudafaka and procede to rape face.
Without smoke this proboly wouldn't be possible unless the enemy doesn't keep scouts around his 88, and if it did the AVRE would be guaranteed dead.
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2011, 06:27:34 pm » |
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I don't think it should be a huge modifier though.
Smoke is already VERY powerful to those who know how to use it.
88 trolling your day?
Smoke offmap and move in with avre and troops and use AVRE to decrew, then use troops to capture the mudafaka and procede to rape face.
Without smoke this proboly wouldn't be possible unless the enemy doesn't keep scouts around his 88, and if it did the AVRE would be guaranteed dead.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2011, 06:28:47 pm » |
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This would be quite nice and make more people use smoke.
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2011, 06:32:03 pm » |
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Err, you think more people will use smoke when it gives an LOS nerf? It works in both ways you know.
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2011, 06:34:00 pm » |
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It would be great as a flanking use for you could drop smoke at both sides and then rush while the enemy army is panicking, would also be a great Scare tactic. . |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2011, 06:42:56 pm » |
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Err, you think more people will use smoke when it gives an LOS nerf? It works in both ways you know.
Would be hard(er) to follow units that left the LOS of RR/Flamers/riflenade blob. Would leave entrenched position assault largely untouched, in that situation the target is known and the position is some vital target (88). Alternatively smoke cooldowns should be increased. Either way theres less advantage in using it in every fight with LOS reduction, its easier to disengage and favors situations when you are absolutely needed to kill something (heavy mg spam, bunkers, 88s, etc) |
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2011, 07:31:43 pm » |
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but dropping smoke on atgs would benefit pushing in with vehicles since atgs in the smoke would have less sight, and same with pushing infantry in towards an mg. though, if the atg moves out of the smoke it would gain it's los back... hmm
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2011, 11:16:15 pm » |
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I don't think it should be a huge modifier though.
Smoke is already VERY powerful to those who know how to use it.
88 trolling your day?
Smoke offmap and move in with avre and troops and use AVRE to decrew, then use troops to capture the mudafaka and procede to rape face.
Without smoke this proboly wouldn't be possible unless the enemy doesn't keep scouts around his 88, and if it did the AVRE would be guaranteed dead.
why doesnt everyone think of that? RIGHT,ONLY 1 DOC HAS AVRE  |
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