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Malgoroth Offline
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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2011, 01:55:14 am »

I know what he means, but it wasn't unnecessary.

Yes it was  Tongue

But I don't spam fausts so it doesn't really affect me all that much. If I'm careful I can even get that 3rd shot so... whatevs!  Grin
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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2011, 01:59:39 am »

if u dont spam fausts, then you wouldn't understand that it was necessary. They were too cheap for what they did. 35 mu for 2 fausts? when u get i think its 2 or 3 stickies for 60?

Yeah u get engine crits but tbh, if u get stickied, you didn't see the rifle squad or you didn't think you'd get stickied but fausts, you can know it has fausts and still get hit
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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2011, 02:02:21 am »

It's mainly for the support weapons to be honest, +1 guy on support weapons is quite powerful.
The fatherland defense volks and pio's are just a neat little extra.

Now all we need is for eirrmod to actually fix the unit swapping Tongue.

if you want powerfull support weapons,go for terror heavy support,blows all other support weapons,even those  def 4 man look just silly compared to them.
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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2011, 02:06:46 am »

if u dont spam fausts, then you wouldn't understand that it was necessary. They were too cheap for what they did. 35 mu for 2 fausts? when u get i think its 2 or 3 stickies for 60?

Yeah u get engine crits but tbh, if u get stickied, you didn't see the rifle squad or you didn't think you'd get stickied but fausts, you can know it has fausts and still get hit

True true... But fausts need a clear LoS whereas stickies can go through houses and hedges. You still have to be careless to get hit by one. All in all - it wasn't a change that was absolutely NEEDED, but I don't think it really HURT anything either. Except volk spam. But EiR needs less spam anyway.   
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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2011, 02:09:18 am »

never used fausts again,and tbh that volk spam coy I tried,was one of the least successful coy's I had...
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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2011, 02:14:16 am »

I get good use out of them. I use them to cover my tanks from circle strafing and to alpha strike rampaging light vehicles. They pretty much perform the same job I would expect out of shrecks, but for a much cheaper munitions cost.
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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2011, 02:37:03 am »

Somebody mention volks?
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2011, 03:25:56 am »

you are pro Myst
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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2011, 03:26:44 am »

No, I don't get paid for playing the game, hence I am not pro Sad.
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2011, 03:34:38 am »

i never used them but i don't think that a half dead additional volks man with shit weapon is T4 worthy

the extra man for support weapons may be better but im not a fan of support weapons anyways....

beside flaks and maybe some mobile stuff with officers the defensive is just a shit doctrine
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« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2011, 07:45:17 am »

also the heroic armor on flak 88 is actually worse than infantry armor.

die faster to flames and nades - only weakness of heavy cover immobile flak crew.
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« Reply #31 on: June 24, 2011, 07:53:52 am »

so why give it then to them?!
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« Reply #32 on: June 24, 2011, 08:03:52 am »

Because somebody thought it would be better against inf arms and didnt realize its not as god.

Same reason axis docs give tanks Elite Criticals(worse thing ever) wooo I get slight chance to dodge a sticky. Oh and I also gain max vulnerablility to mines and vulnerability to normal weapon crits.

Edit: Elite armour instead of rear crit MIGHT be better.... IDK
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« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2011, 10:02:25 am »

They take 4 sniper shots to decrew though
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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2011, 10:10:44 am »

They take 4 sniper shots to decrew though


The fuck?
dont they retreate after 3 shtos if you have 4 men?
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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2011, 10:11:58 am »

Heroic criticals(not armour - armour is irrelevant in this) mean you need 2 shots to kill each guy.

Since flak 88 can only function with 2 crew members, killing 2 means the thing gets decrewed.

2 guys x 2 guys each = 4 shots to decrew.
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« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2011, 10:12:59 am »

ah fair enough.
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« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2011, 10:54:52 am »

should keep heroic crits then. not armor.
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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2011, 11:22:21 am »

maybe that should be the same for the terror T4?
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« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2011, 10:20:18 pm »

this t4 requires so much work, none of it is basically finished.
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