Cheap PGrens get RifleArmour instead of RangerArmour

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[DarkSoldierX]

not to mention they have medikits,which ads more to their survivability...

Again thats a problem with the upgrade, the basic units are unbalanced.

[Mysthalin]

Base unit costs involve a degree of how upgrade-able they are, Dark.

[TheVolskinator]

Frankly, PGs are perfectly balanced IMO. They arent particularly frighnting to me personally; BARs fuck them up royally. G43s seem to be used for Slow almost exclusively--kinda retarded to waste 60 MU on that, but that's just me. I almost never have much of a problem with them, as theyre so rarely seen in mobs. Riflemen in EiR and in all versions of CoH, be it untouched or BKmod, will draw even to PGs whether at long or short range. The battle between Riflemen and Panzer Grenadiers has always been that of finding superior cover--ONE volley from superior will decide the fight, one on one. Dont complain about losing to PGs at point blank, because they can win--and lose there. Same for extreme range, rifles can easily win if they have better cover.

Try constructing sandbags before trying to engage PGs. And please, use wire to make "One Sided Cover". Too often people leave their cover as just a wall of sandbags, to which charging enemy inf thank you. One sided cover negates this decidedly. This is also a good idea on maps such as Neuville where the walls around the church are hotly contested--simply wire off the outside edge of the enemy's wall and deny him all the benefits of his cover. Itl pay off.

[Mister Schmidt]

BARs aren't that great against pgrens actually

[jackmccrack]

Volski play against Leophone he uses G43 horde

[Unkn0wn]

The G43 suppression is the problem, the rest is fine.

[NightRain]

BARs aren't that great against pgrens actually

BARs literally rape Pgrens. Pgrens used to have some defence vs bar now they all be gone.