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« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2011, 11:13:42 am »

i think they can stay as they are just the mun price should be lowered
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2011, 07:12:56 pm »

So will there be any change to them in the close future? in other words SoonTm?
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2011, 07:17:01 pm »

I think people are getting bad...

Just because something is intended to Assault doesn't means it's supposed to wade through HMG's and Fire to do it.

Yeah Assault grens don't stand up to fire as well as some other infantry types. but they still have the same weapons and they can still kill things. Alot of what I'm seeing as Suggestions here will put them into the walk through hell and back category. These guys used to be 95 Mu and they worked nicely around that.
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 07:29:28 pm »

Maybe so but for their ability to survive and fight aint worth the 120 mun that are now compared that you can buy 2 g43s instead with twice the usefullness.
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 09:30:49 pm »

y u guys no reply 2 mai idea sadface

If they were nice before then lets chance them back............
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« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2011, 12:49:19 am »

then maybe g43's need to be tweaked then if you're getting more bang for your buck.
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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2011, 12:50:31 am »

then maybe g43's need to be tweaked then if you're getting more bang for your buck.

haha Tym,  no. If g43 needs to be 'tweake'd then its sure as hell that bars need even a bigger 'tweak'

Assault grens and storms mp44 needs to go down.


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These guys used to be 95 Mu and they worked nicely around that.

Yup brn, and that's practicaly what people are agreeing with also.
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2011, 01:18:24 am »

Tym should be banned from the balance forums TBH.
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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2011, 01:22:57 am »

Being that they have little access to healing, the back of an IHT is probably where they belong (and where they shine the most in my experience). The IHT soaks the damage and you can bail em out on top of enemy infantry before the HT goes down.
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2011, 01:27:08 am »

smoke + assault grenadiers = Profit

Though one BAR squad can deal with 2 of them.
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« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2011, 02:20:20 am »

Maybe so but for their ability to survive and fight aint worth the 120 mun that are now compared that you can buy 2 g43s instead with twice the usefullness.

hey  nug and ampn, do you ever read the whole post or just part of it and not anything before it cuz i swear you always take what you want to read and trollolol on about something totally unrelated to what people say.,

this is what i was responding to. he said a 60mu upgrade is more useful than a 120 mu unit, all i did was make the comment then maybe it needs to be tweaked if something worth 60 is much more appealing than something 120, it should be the other way around.

making them 90mu imo would lead to spam. 100mu would be just about right, leave pool and mp alone.
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« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2011, 02:26:09 am »


this is what i was responding to. he said a 60mu upgrade is more useful than a 120 mu unit, all i did was make the comment then maybe it needs to be tweaked if something worth 60 is much more appealing than something 120, it should be the other way around.

Well guess what Tym,  60mu upgrade is properly balanced as 1 g43 has 8 dps,  the 120 one not.
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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2011, 02:35:21 am »

lol properly balanced yeah if u factor in short medium and long range but mp44's at close range are 19 dpg. the only weapon larger is the wm lmg and they get 4 of them.

so 4 assault infantry +  19 dpg at short range = 76 dps when they're standing still within 6 meters.

i dont know where the g43 is right now as i dont know the short medium and long range dps but i'm sure since you're probably quoting the total dps is 8 and it used to be 4 then possibly i can assume it's  now 16/9.6 and 4 if i'm wrong someone correct me, i dont care.

so going off my assumption, and pe get 1 free g43 and then u get 2 more with the upgrade, that's a total of 48 dpg at close range, more so than the 34 that bars get and the 42 that the lmg gets. so spare me. G43 is under-priced  for what it does and pzgrens don't need the free g43 any longer.
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« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2011, 02:42:37 am »

Tym, Assault Grens suck, get over it.

BAR squad/BREN/SMG Rangers all kill them fine.
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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2011, 02:44:30 am »

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so going off my assumption, and pe get 1 free g43 and then u get 2 more with the upgrade, that's a total of 48 dpg at close range,

Tym math ftw !

3 x 8 = 48 !


8 dps is not total dps , it's close range dps.
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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2011, 03:32:33 am »

Should go back to 95 munitions.
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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2011, 11:52:24 am »

was it not 90?
well it should be 90 becouse 95 is a annoying number tbh.
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2011, 11:56:02 am »

93mu !!
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2011, 11:59:15 am »

It just should be a Even number like 60 mun or 90 but not something like 65 or 95, it just looks and sounds stupid as a bag of dicks.

25 for flame nades or 50 for fausts is good but when you go into something as obscure as 30 mun nades like for allies its just stupit and should not be tbh.(even tough they have the perfect priceing range for their usefullness its just is stupid)
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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2011, 12:02:54 pm »

REVERT CHANGE!

LESS POP

MORE SURVIVABILITY VS INF

WAYYY CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!

HOOORAY!
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