Under used units

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[nugnugx]

Here is a list of under used units, units which you do not see in every game but rather in small numbers once a few games(or not at all), they are under used because their usage does not benefit gameplay in a efficient way, they should be looked into to improve/make them usefull.

50mm upgun puma
flammenwerfer halftrack
t17
assault grenadiers
vampire HT

[Smokaz]

disagree with everything except upgun puma, and that thing just needs a manpower decrease

[Katusha]

i agree with 50mm upgun, assault grenadiers, but the rest is good i think, maybe flammenwerfer could use some work

[DarkSoldierX]

I only agree with 50mm Puma, and assault grens.

Assault gren change should be revert

(55 hp soldier armour cheap ass 4 pop dudes)

Idk wut to do with 50mm



1. T17 is great now that change was reverted.
2. Flammenwerfer is fine, and can be very cost effective, all it requires is a person who knows how to use smoke. Or just flank
3. Light AT HT is very VERY powerful for its pop. Its just that idiots underestimate the power of the LAHT
4. Vampire HT is the longest range scout in the entire game, you can spy on the enemies infantry in a HUGE radius, so you know exactly where to strike and then withdraw, Plus, it can spot snipers too.

[nugnugx]

2. Flammenwerfer is fine, and can be very cost effective, all it requires is a person who knows how to use smoke. Or just flank
3. Light AT HT is very VERY powerful for its pop. Its just that idiots underestimate the power of the LAHT
4. Vampire HT is the longest range scout in the entire game, you can spy on the enemies infantry in a HUGE radius, so you know exactly where to strike and then withdraw, Plus, it can spot snipers too.

Yet you never see people use them , why ?  because they are not efficient in their roles and there are units which perform their roles better.

[Katusha]

I use flammenwerfers and light at halftracks....ive seen smokaz use flammenwerfers, they are great for 5 pop and they have 2 flamethrowers, all for 40 fuel

[spinn72]

Assault grens are still powerful, they're just overpriced when you compare them to G43's, which have a better M/L DPS and suppression fire for almost half the price. Actually.. sorry there's almost no reason to field them come to think of it.. rofl. With old G43 suppression, you'd use them to close in and rape a squad after G43's used slow from max range.

Flemmen is too fragile, there are better options available, it's not worth the MP it costs.

I field a Vamp in every coy on PE, as well as 2-3 LATHT's.. Don't see what the problem is, for 3 pop you get focus fire to rape any form of inf and tread breaker. Effectively, you can have 1x marder and 1x LATHT on the field and that would be enough AT, considering you use treadbreaker well. I'm just starting a teller/latht company, so i'll let you know how it goes =p.

[nugnugx]

deleted latht from list because i thought its 6 pop and not 3

[jackmccrack]

there was a time a few weeks ago when i think every good axis spammed flammenwerfer ht

[Heartmann]

I have 3-6 flammen ht in my wher coys, they rock! anyone who underestimates there value in cleaning out areas of support clearly havent seen what they can do!

[Mysthalin]

there was a time a few weeks ago when i think every good axis spammed flammenwerfer ht

That was back when I was running my 9 flammen HT coy. Was fun to use tbh.

[RikiRude]

50mm upgun puma
flammenwerfer halftrack
t17
assault grenadiers
vampire HT

i see upgun pumas quite a bit, and use them, but they do need to come down in price.
i still never see flammenwerfer HTs, but i just put one in my company to give it a go since i havent used them in ages.
t17, these guys are great since last patch! i really love crocs, but i took them out so i could run multiple t17s, just to see which i would like better.
i rarely go up against assault grens, but when i see people use them they work great.
i see vamp HTs almost every time i play against pe, they are used quite a bit. i wouldnt run a pe company with out one.

[marda145]

T17 is now ok for its quite high price, but why it cant penetrate anything (maybe even kettenrad)??

[Unkn0wn]

It's anti infantry. Though we only 'reverted' it so AFAIK it should still be able to penetrate halftracks and other light vehicles.

[marda145]

It could at least penetrate puma or marder sometimes...

[Poppi]

T17 is now ok for its quite high price, but why it cant penetrate anything (maybe even kettenrad)??

ya i feel kind of ripped off on that. Even against light armored (like a HT) it does almost nothing.
Stag on the other hand seems to get enjoy both AI and decent AT

When i level my armor company to HVAP, im going to try t-17 against armor. Maybe that will make it one hell of a unit.

[DarkSoldierX]

T-17 is anti infantry only. Stop trying to penetrate shit with it lol.

[Audemed]

I'd add the M3 GMC to the underused list. I didn't even know what it was until I used it myself.

[RikiRude]

I'd add the M3 GMC to the underused list. I didn't even know what it was until I used it myself.

they are awesome, but jumbo is awesome too! also they receive no buffs from the doctrine it's in which is a huge reason i assume they dont get used.

[Mysthalin]

pak36 in tankhunters.

For very, very good reasons.