[WM] storm 2xmp44 overprice

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[TheIcelandicManiac]

why means removing cloak also loosing fun?

Alot of people enjoy using cloak ,stealth and ninja strikes as their Base tactic(like me) but getting rid of it would just make most comps like Luft and blitz uninstesting and would force people to pick a new tactic that they would not enjoy doing wich in turn would make them leave.

[hans]

it makes companies interesting sure but just the axis doctrines

they got the storms cloaked, now the fallis

how about the allies they dont get such interesting shit

[nugnugx]

the fuk you talking about,  allies also got cloak,   snipers , atgs , mandos got smoke which cloaks them for short period,  brit engineers cloak in cover.



Allies got fireup which axis don't have,,,,,,,, does this mean that we  should give fireup to axis because it is 'interesting shit?'

[hans]

the fuk you talking about,  allies also got cloak,   snipers , atgs , mandos got smoke which cloaks them for short period,  brit engineers cloak in cover.

yes they got same shit like the axis (snipers atgs have same cloak)

mandos have a special cloak and just for a short period (realistic, but thats not the point)

but the question is whats more effectiv, fucking storms and fallis ninjaing u all the time with shreks/double shreks, mp44 and falli, or a mando that hiddes itself for a few secounds?

if we talk about different doctrines u cant give one doctrin the same abilities like the other one

mandos are special, brit engineers are special

but storms and fallis going more and more equal, storms with the cloak were a special of the blitz now u have the same in the luftwaffe

[nugnugx]

because they are different purpose units,  you get engies with piats that can cloak in all doctrines,  mandos get 6 stens for roughly same price as a 3 mp44 kch squad which gives them double the dps.

[hans]

because they are different purpose units,  you get engies with piats that can cloak in all doctrines,  mandos get 6 stens for roughly same price as a 3 mp44 kch squad which gives them double the dps.

yes thats okay but what the different purpose between storms and fallis?

[nugnugx]

storms are ninja  and falls are assault


t4 doctrine giving buff is a different thing.

[hans]

assault ninjas?

[nugnugx]

assault ninjas?

ye that's what one of t4 makes falls,  but nothing is wrong with falls,  if anything it's with the t4.

[nohant]

i won't use mp44 ons turm, useless and too much expensive.

[Mysthalin]

Falls are assault?

Lol?

[nugnugx]

Falls are assault?

Lol?

yep,  sprint, soldier armor,  fg42 18dps on close range,  you can argue if they are or not, but they are much better assaulters than storms.
also luft buffs falls much better than blitz buffs storms.

[nohant]

i prefer to use fJ to ambush, placing ythem where  i suppose enemy inf will pass.  FG42 do the rest.

[nugnugx]

that too..... falls can do it all 

[smurfORnot]

yep,  sprint, soldier armor,  fg42 18dps on close range,  you can argue if they are or not, but they are much better assaulters than storms.
also luft buffs falls much better than blitz buffs storms.

that is basically cause only 1 T4 buffs storms,while falls are buffed in all trees.

[tank130]

Lets keep it on topic gents

[Groundfire]

Anyone else think that the solution to this problem is something other than the price of the MP44s?


From what I understand is that the MP44s are balanced against other assault weapons, but the platforms are not equal.

Storms and mandos the only assault infantry with Infantry armor, while Rangers have Elite, Falls have Soldier armor. Mandos used to have Soldier and their Sten upgrade has reduced to compensate, but they have 6 men, unlike Storms and their 4 man squad.

How bout no price changes, but give Storms Elite armor? At vet 2 in vCoH, storms have Elite armor. It wouldnt be much of a change, just something new in the EIRR environment.

[nugnugx]

Storms and mandos the only assault infantry with Infantry armor,

Yea but mandos get 6 stens for cheaper than the storm mp44.

While i can agree that 150 mu for 4 x mp44 is acceptable ,  the 2x mp44 for 95 is just ridiculous.
Also they get elite armor on t4 buff..... the t4 would require changing also.


Elite armor and 75-80 mu  for 2 x mp44 is reasonable i think.

[Groundfire]

Naw either 1 or the other, not both.

I dont rly care, was just throwing out an idea to see the reaction. Elite armor and a buff to the price is too much.

[nugnugx]

Elite armor and a buff to the price is too much.

well then imo price is better.