WildZontar
Donator
 Posts: 1168
|
|
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2011, 04:54:31 pm » |
|
No, both of those units were needed.
Let me take an example. WM has the 8 cm Granatwerfer 34. If the same mortar was given to another faction then gameplay would not be as diverse and fun but would make balance much easier, this is called Mirroring.
But you can also not leave out such a critical component of the game to one faction, that would cause unbalance. This is called current EIR.
Instead of getting an identical unit Panzer Elite has a Mortar halftrack, it's in the same unit category but it works very different. This is not called Mirroring.
Okay, but why is it the PE get a sniper? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Zontar is a filthy sludge-dwelling muppet, thats why.
Y U SAVED US FROM GOING INTO BANKRUPT!
ALL BOW DOWN TO WILDZONTAR!
|
|
|
AmPM
Community Mapper
 Posts: 7978
|
|
« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2011, 04:58:06 pm » |
|
Units should only be given to Factions based on whether or not they are required for the faction to function.
Emplacements don't function in EIRR, so support weapons of a traditional sense had to be put in.
PE doesn't need a sniper really, but I'm not overly worried. Who the hell uses infantry vs FJ anyway? Just roll up with some Churchills and kill them all.
Or use smoke from Riflenades and flame spam...
Or commando snipe his ass.
Or arty the area till its nothing but wreckage and craters.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 . . . . . . . . . . . |
|
|
| PonySlaystation
|
|
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2011, 05:00:55 pm » |
|
Units should only be given to Factions based on whether or not they are required for the faction to function.
Which is exactly that category that the PE sniper falls into. PE has always had difficulties countering snipers. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Sharks are not monsters Henley, they are cute, cuddly and misunderstood. They love humans. sometimes they love TOO much. They love people so much that sometimes their kisses separate people into two flailing pieces which are consumed by other sharks in a frenzy of peace and joy.
|
|
|
WildZontar
Donator
Posts: 1168
|
|
« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2011, 05:02:59 pm » |
|
Which is exactly that category that the PE sniper falls into. PE has always had difficulties countering snipers.
So in order to counter sniper they are given a sniper that can only cloak in cover? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
AmPM
Community Mapper
Posts: 7978
|
|
« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2011, 05:04:23 pm » |
|
Where is my Sniper to counter snipers in RE?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
| smurfORnot
|
|
« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2011, 05:04:50 pm » |
|
as noted,it's fail sniper in most aspects  specially for a reward unit,and reward units are supposed to be a bit better than regular ones,lol,normal sniper seems just better... |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
TheIcelandicManiac
Resident forum troll. Fucked unkn0wns mom
Posts: 6294
|
|
« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2011, 05:05:06 pm » |
|
Recons in brencarriers Where is my Sniper to counter snipers in RE?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Soon™
gj icelandic i am proud of u  Sometimes its like PQ doesnt carrot all.
Work Harder |
|
|
| PonySlaystation
|
|
« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2011, 05:07:20 pm » |
|
Where is my Sniper to counter snipers in RE?
They have scout recon also RE are not fully implemented yet. as noted,it's fail sniper in most aspects specially for a reward unit,and reward units are supposed to be a bit better than regular ones,lol,normal sniper seems just better... It was just introduced, it'll just need some more tweaking. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
AmPM
Community Mapper
Posts: 7978
|
|
« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2011, 05:09:00 pm » |
|
Recons in brencarriers Where is my Sniper to counter snipers in RE?
Scout Cars, Vampire HTs. Try again, no reason you need a sniper to counter snipers. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
WildZontar
Donator
Posts: 1168
|
|
« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2011, 05:10:31 pm » |
|
Don't PE have the Kettengrad and Vampire Halftrack to reveal snipers?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
| PonySlaystation
|
|
« Reply #50 on: August 01, 2011, 05:11:54 pm » |
|
Scout Cars, Vampire HTs.
Try again, no reason you need a sniper to counter snipers.
And if the player has AT? what then? |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
| smurfORnot
|
|
« Reply #51 on: August 01, 2011, 05:12:55 pm » |
|
if you have blob of ab's and sniper or two inside that blob,it will be very hard for scout cars to kill it,best thing is just to counter snipe it.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
WildZontar
Donator
Posts: 1168
|
|
« Reply #52 on: August 01, 2011, 05:21:32 pm » |
|
if you have blob of ab's and sniper or two inside that blob,it will be very hard for scout cars to kill it,best thing is just to counter snipe it.
And then lose your sniper to the blob of AB that surrounds it? And if the player has AT? what then? Well, there are about 3 or so options. 1. Disable their AT 2. Take a gamble and try to destroy sniper with a possible loss of a Kettengrad and Pg squad/Vamp HT with PG squad/Scout Car 3. Player does not have enough AT It's the same thing for the Americans too right? Wehrmact have a sniper, and also happen to have shrecks and paks to destroy my detection vehicle? Your PE vehicles happen to be sturdier than a jeep. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
AmPM
Community Mapper
Posts: 7978
|
|
« Reply #53 on: August 01, 2011, 05:22:38 pm » |
|
if you have blob of ab's and sniper or two inside that blob,it will be very hard for scout cars to kill it,best thing is just to counter snipe it.
If the Axis have a blob of handheld AT or support weapons it can be very hard for Recon squads to ride/run in and kill a sniper. Best thing is to counter snipe it. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
| PonySlaystation
|
|
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2011, 05:29:19 pm » |
|
If the Axis have a blob of handheld AT or support weapons it can be very hard for Recon squads to ride/run in and kill a sniper. Best thing is to counter snipe it.
RE are not implemented. RCA has Lit up and Priest /w creeping barrage which works as an effective sniper counter. Recon squads can kill snipers if they get close, armored cars /w other scouts can barely kill it if it stands next to it and even then it's likely to survive because of fire up or a nearby building/halftrack. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
| smurfORnot
|
|
« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2011, 05:31:03 pm » |
|
And then lose your sniper to the blob of AB that surrounds it?
ehm,no...cuz you have squad or 2 of ai troops around,ano no one is gonna charge his ab with rr to try and kill the sniper when it has support. |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
EIRRMod
Administrator / Lead Developer
 Posts: 11009
|
|
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2011, 05:31:19 pm » |
|
as noted,it's fail sniper in most aspects specially for a reward unit,and reward units are supposed to be a bit better than regular ones,lol,normal sniper seems just better... Thats why its in the rewards unit section - to test ;p |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
|
|
|
AmPM
Community Mapper
Posts: 7978
|
|
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2011, 05:33:48 pm » |
|
Test Brit sniper!!
Sniper with LONGBOW! Silent, deadly, no marker on minimap.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
TheIcelandicManiac
Resident forum troll. Fucked unkn0wns mom
Posts: 6294
|
|
« Reply #58 on: August 01, 2011, 05:35:00 pm » |
|
yea, accurate but with a arty like shell with no tracer but cant hit moving targets but has massive range.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
LeoPhone
Honoured Member
 Posts: 0
|
|
« Reply #59 on: August 01, 2011, 05:35:41 pm » |
|
Test Brit sniper!!
Sniper with LONGBOW! Silent, deadly, no marker on minimap.
England's latest super weapon: Robin Hood  |
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
