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[Smokaz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5rh2OYQLZA

Fun to have so many good things about EIRR described

[DarkSoldierX]

Ive played many MMORTS games, I don't think any of them have been executed properly.

( I havnt watched this video yet)

but for one I see a lack in overall skill required gameplay
 two Some of them are cash shop dominated
three The game is low on PVP


I await the day when a MMO comes out and it isn't room based, has alot of micro capabilities, has lowish PVP restrictions, meaning I dont wake up and my base is gone(had that happen many times), and doesn't take forever to get started

[Mister Schmidt]

Should advertise us on that video tbh

[Groundfire]

Should advertise us on that video tbh

I was hoping he would reference us, cause our mod is the poster child of what he wants to see.

[DarkSoldierX]

I was hoping he would reference us, cause our mod is the poster child of what he wants to see.

Except we dont make units cost more when doctrines buff it.

We pretty much have fixed that though.

[Tymathee]

^ Not really but anyway...

I came up with an idea for a mmorts a few years ago for c&c and it was pretty much how he described it but i started typing something and came up with another idea and it kinda stems from LoL, HoN and other things like that involving hero units but you'd have disposable units around it you can call it like normal from resources you gain each game to a certain pop cap level. If ur avatar dies, game over, you're out and have to go to another server.

[DarkSoldierX]

^ Not really but anyway...

I came up with an idea for a mmorts a few years ago for c&c and it was pretty much how he described it but i started typing something and came up with another idea and it kinda stems from LoL, HoN and other things like that involving hero units but you'd have disposable units around it you can call it like normal from resources you gain each game to a certain pop cap level. If ur avatar dies, game over, you're out and have to go to another server.

Lol.

And yeah we did pretty much fix that. The fix is having short wars and little grind. Warmap isnt even in and we have low grind.

And noone wants to buy a apcr jagdpanther that cost 100 fuel more and +1 popcap when they grinded to get there in the first place.

A buff isnt a buff if it increased cost lowers the cost effectiveness levels to the same as before.

[Smokaz]

I disagree, and I think your idea of why increased cost for increased performance would be a bad thing stems from poor imagination.

Would you for instance not buy a 50 fuel/50 muni upgrade which ensured that your panzer IV took out a sherman? Like old heat rounds.

[EIRRMod]

+ Bacon buff
+ Narwal buff

These are OP afaik.

[EIRRMod]

Made a comment, you guys feel welcome sell us up (Please?)

And if you hates us, just send the scathing PM to me - not youTube hahahaha

[DarkSoldierX]

I disagree, and I think your idea of why increased cost for increased performance would be a bad thing stems from poor imagination.

Would you for instance not buy a 50 fuel/50 muni upgrade which ensured that your panzer IV took out a sherman? Like old heat rounds.

After I grinded to get there? No not really, and thats not exactly a fair comparison considering what he (youtube dude) speaks of resources don't work that way. His example does have population/cost, its just cost.

A more fair comparison would also adding increased popcap.

Made a comment, you guys feel welcome sell us up (Please?)

And if you hates us, just send the scathing PM to me - not youTube hahahaha

lolwut

bacon buff plox!

bacon can never be OP enough

[Tymathee]

EIR is different because you can't keep building, so the main issue of most MMORTS's is gone and it takes the guys category of "finite resources" even furthur by having finite resources to build your and then finite resources in game. Don't think anywhere else has that. Viva La EIR

[TheWindCriesMary]

I stopped watching after he called Starcraft 2 "great".

Anyone who starts a discussion about great RTS's by calling Starcraft great loses their credibility right out of the gate.

-Wind

[DarkSoldierX]

I stopped watching after he called Starcraft 2 "great".

Anyone who starts a discussion about great RTS's by calling Starcraft great loses their credibility right out of the gate.

-Wind

Starcraft is a great RTS, no doubt about it.

Just that its strats don't appeal to most of us.

[TheWindCriesMary]

It's not a great RTS. It's a game that lots of people enjoy and have fun playing, but a great RTS it is not.

[Spartan_Marine88]

Starcraft is a 'comfortable' rts, which means it bare bones. It tries nothing, and fails at nothing and follows your very very basic rock paper scissors.


its not bad, its not all that good its just average covered up with pretty skins and a story.

[TheWindCriesMary]

Well put Spartan.

[Tymathee]

in today's society, great is defined by popularity, not quality unfortunately.

[Spartan_Marine88]

in today's society, great is defined by popularity, not quality unfortunately.

this happened before, it led to games like ET and the collaps of gaming for a few years till nintendo came along.

for those who dont understand why im pissed at WOT and COD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2o3mlg5AxQ


and to simplify it for the retards i know who wont understand, companies spammed the industry with cheap and easy games just like ET. after awhile they became worse and worse until it became a joke and no one wanted to buy

[Tymathee]

Lol cod isn't all that bad. It found what people like and kept doing it. If anything, blame the consumer.

ET was diff, it was a horrendous game no one bought because it was rushed.