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« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2011, 12:30:54 pm »

BC2?
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« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2011, 12:31:05 pm »

Hardcore is the only way.

Radar and needing more than 1 hit to be killed is a crutch. If you want to run into the open, you better make sure its clear first.

But we have discovered your issue with BF3 and RO2.

You can't stand realism in your shooter. Go play Quake.

Godforbid you have to hit someone running there more than 1 times!!

Put some prone in it and AMPM can have his camper fest.

M1 garand on non HC is way harder, so thats where the skill is.
2888 kills with m1 garand so far, beat that.
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« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2011, 12:32:22 pm »

stfu noobs i want my BF3 fixed kthxbye
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« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2011, 12:32:36 pm »

Why would you even play that much? L2getlifemuch?
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PonySlaystation Offline
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« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2011, 12:33:14 pm »

RO2 is not realistic...bullets travel incredibly slow, ammunition levels are off, the tanks are fail. On top of that, it has sooo many issues with clipping and other minor glitches that it adds up to a shit game.

Bullet speed was changed in a recent patch. Ammunition can be changed server side and is usually lower on realism servers. They also balanced tanks and bugs/glitches are pretty much non existent now.

My story is way better than urs.

Let's look at the downsides of BFBC2

Maps are small, there is no flanking, weapons have no recoil, destructive environment gets destroyed first seconds of the match and the entire gameplay is just run and gun rather than playing tactical and moving from cover to cover etc.

It's pretty much just as ampm said. RO is just too hardcore for you. If you like run and gun then sure that's one thing but you don't have to flame on other games, especially when you have no arguments to support your point.
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« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2011, 12:40:11 pm »

But we have discovered your issue with BF3 and RO2.

You can't stand realism in your shooter. Go play Quake.

I havent even played BF3 yet, nor did I say anything about it.

Someone failed at reading.

Never played quake. I dont like sci fi shit like that.
Nice fail ampm, try again.

Why would you even play that much? L2getlifemuch?

I guess you are out of arguments, gj.
Too bad you have no friends to play BC2 with, its pretty awsm. Ye I can imagine it getting boring quick playing it alone all the time.

How can you talk about nolife when you constantly make topics about all these little shitgames you bought and think are awsm, oh the irony.
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« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2011, 12:46:45 pm »

I play them because they are fun, not because they are AAA titles.

As for posting and life, I find my time between working, school, my daughter, my girlfriend, my friends, my family and the Army. My week is well scheduled.

Not all of us have time to spend playing thousands of games of BC2. I'm not saying BC2 is a terrible game, just that it is a terrible representation of a military shooter. No tactical movement, just run and gun. I played until everyone in EIR stopped playing it. Now we play other games. It has no replay value and comes down to just being Modern Warfare with vehicles.
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« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2011, 12:52:51 pm »

Maps are small, there is no flanking, weapons have no recoil, destructive environment gets destroyed first seconds of the match and the entire gameplay is just run and gun rather than playing tactical and moving from cover to cover etc.

As I said, you havent experienced its full potential yet, dont blame the game if you cant play tactical with your squad, maybe play with me and my friends sometime, awsm teamwork, something not possible in RO2

It's pretty much just as ampm said. RO is just too hardcore for you. If you like run and gun then sure that's one thing but you don't have to flame on other games, especially when you have no arguments to support your point.

BC2 is one of the few games that actually stayed fun for a long long time on publics, because you can play with your m8s and do some teamwork. Yes we have awsm attack routes, going in hummer or quad, chopper etc. I dont see that happening on RO2, as I said before its just a FPS playing on a public like call of duty for example, which for me gets boring fast unless I do clanwars, its just running around shooting same as any FPS. Its nothing new, and besides that, it has been done better in other games, even from 10 years ago. Then we have the teamwork aspect, well you cant do that in RO2, all you can do is spawn on squad leader, wow fun.
Atleast BC2 HAS desctructable enviroment, which is pretty nicely done and was NEW. RO2 doesnt even have this and it also doesnt offer anyting NEW.
BC2 maps are big man, I only play Rush, they are HUGE compared to RO2 lol, what r u talking about. Plenty of room to flank.
Tactical gameplay? Well, the game is what you make it, you can use smokelauncher which is awsm, c4 on quad or hummer and rush a tank, or steal choppers on isla innocentes for example.
If you want to stay alive, you do have to move from cover to cover. Infact, in BC2, if you stay at 1 spot for too long you are going to die 100%. You gotta keep moving.
Maybe BC2 is too hardcore for YOU! Maybe its too hard even to recognise whats possible.
As I said, you prolly havent even experienced its full potential.
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« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2011, 01:07:43 pm »

RO2 is entirely based around teamwork, failure to cooperate with your team means you lose. Obviously since there were many new players and the since the game is pretty difficult it had a lot of problems at launch. But now after a month it looks a lot better, most people understand the importance of teamwork and focusing on objectives rather than sitting in the spawn, this is especially noticeable in realism servers.

Also there are plenty of "new" things and improvements in RO2 that completely revolutionizes FPS gameplay.

That RO2 has no teamwork and nothing new is just complete bullshit. RO2 has destructive environment and proper bullet penetration, the difference is that it doesn't get completely mowed down the first seconds like in BFBC2. I wouldn't exactly call the destructive system in BC2 successful or good for gameplay.
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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2011, 01:11:44 pm »

I bet you even play Territory, atleast Countdown was pretty awsm.

And what is there what 'completely revolutionizes' the FPS gameplay?

I havent seen any destructable enviroment in MP when I played it. I dont see it as a trend that it all gets mowed down in first seconds in bc2, i cant relate to that. If I saw that I would say it, but I dont, maybe you dont play Rush ?

You can say what you want about RO2's teamwork, it might be important to win, but all you can do is spawn on squad leader, very revolutionairy indeed.
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« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2011, 02:04:13 pm »

Why is RO2 bullshit? The accuracy. Youre all saying how 1337 realistic it is; could a real soldier run for half a mile, shoulder his rifle and not be shaking? There's practically no sway and the rifles are 100% accurate: its a toe-shooting, window-camping snipefest. The AVT40 and STG42 also fuck up the balance royally; Ostfront 41-45 absolutely trumps RO2 on realism and fun (Mare Norsturm was the best fucking mod ever). New sounds and shiney skins do NOT = realism. Teamwork? I have yet to see teams in Ro2 use teamwork, counting the pubs at least. Pony, you *exude* RO2 fanboi. BC2 is fun but because if its "realism" (its not, lets be clear on that), but because if you have a little ingenuity its amazing what you can do.

PBR/jetski with a missile launcher = mobile AA platform
Blackhawk + assault class w. C4 riding passenger = bomber gunship
Vodnik/HWMVEE + gunner + medic in the back = mobile MMG carrier.

The list goes on, you can employ the classes a zillion different ways. So instead of playing it like a crouch-behind-knee-high-cover-and-win-cuz-thats-realistic tryhard realism shooter, run and gun when you can and cower behind the nearest rock when you cant: There's a reason the assault class has no AT and the engineer cant lolwtfpwn past 70 meters, you wait for your team to bail your sorry ass out. You really do sound like you play BC2 alone pony...

RO2 is complete shit, BC2 IS the shit, and BF3 is puke untill the bugs are worked out--once they are, BF3 will be a truly amazing game.
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PonySlaystation Offline
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« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2011, 02:09:31 pm »

lol, volks and his realism.
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« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2011, 02:16:55 pm »

lol, volks and his realism.

That was your entire argument for how awsome RO2 was, you little hypocrit.
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« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2011, 02:19:22 pm »

That was your entire argument for how awsome RO2 was, you little hypocrit.

No that was my entire argument about you always bringing up completely unrelated realism arguments that quite simply makes no sense and most of the times are just plain stupid and painful to read.
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« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2011, 02:38:25 pm »

Maps are small, there is no flanking, weapons have no recoil, destructive environment gets destroyed first seconds of the match and the entire gameplay is just run and gun rather than playing tactical and moving from cover to cover etc.


Building an argument with outright lies won't take you anywhere.... I have like 100 hours on BC2, the only thing close to be truth is the low recoil there.
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« Reply #55 on: October 09, 2011, 02:45:59 pm »

No, it's true to some extent even though the recoil is probably the worst part. The animations are also very stale and the hud is annoying. The controls are also lacking, which is not surprising since it was directly ported from consoles.
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« Reply #56 on: October 09, 2011, 03:47:19 pm »


It's a complete and utter shit compared to BC2 right now.

Well duh, comparing a 6 weeks old unfinished beta build of a game to a fully patched game. I'm sure the game will beat the snot out of BC2 when it has seen as much patching as BC2 did
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Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
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« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2011, 04:40:31 pm »

Im quite looking forward to trying the Conquest gametype that just got unlocked, and until then I reserve judgement (which is its basically BFBC2 ... but a bit shittier)
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« Reply #58 on: October 09, 2011, 06:31:31 pm »

Well duh, comparing a 6 weeks old unfinished beta build of a game to a fully patched game. I'm sure the game will beat the snot out of BC2 when it has seen as much patching as BC2 did

I honestly hope so... but I still have my doubts.
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« Reply #59 on: October 09, 2011, 09:40:47 pm »

How about every game is shit and I wear strange looking pants when I play golf with good chaps drinking tea.
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