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TheVolskinator
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #20 on:
January 21, 2012, 05:37:33 pm »
OK, and for everyone else that doesnt run 8+ jeeps in their company?
Most people dont spam jeeps/recons/triangulation.
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smurfORnot
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #21 on:
January 21, 2012, 06:00:12 pm »
most people dont spam storms too
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tank130
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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January 21, 2012, 06:10:10 pm »
Quote from: smurfORnot on January 21, 2012, 06:00:12 pm
most people dont spam storms too
You don't need to spam them. 2 DBL shrek Storms is all you need to severely cripple an allied player.
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spinn72
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #23 on:
January 21, 2012, 06:11:51 pm »
If you're complaining about storms, you're either:
a.) not running 2-3 jeeps, which should be in EVERY company
b.) not running a sniper.
c.) not baiting storms enough
d.) not airborne with recon runs lawl
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CrazyWR
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #24 on:
January 21, 2012, 06:13:19 pm »
Quote from: TheVolskinator on January 21, 2012, 05:37:33 pm
OK, and for everyone else that doesnt run 8+ jeeps in their company?
Most people dont spam jeeps/recons/triangulation.
Which is just stupid, if storms counter your company, you need to have a counter for them. To do otherwise and then complain is just ridiculous.
O NOES, MY TIGER CANT RAPE ENEMY COMPANY WITH 6 ATGS, NERF ATGS PLS
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Computer991
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #25 on:
January 21, 2012, 06:14:25 pm »
Quote from: spinn72 on January 21, 2012, 06:11:51 pm
If you're complaining about storms, you're either:
a.) not running 2-3 jeeps, which should be in EVERY company
b.) not running a sniper.
c.) not baiting storms enough
d.) not airborne with recon runs lawl
A) What do you do when they all die?
B) What if I can't micro a sniper?
C) What if the player doesn't take the bait?
D) We have to take a certain doctrine to counter 1 unit?
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smurfORnot
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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January 21, 2012, 06:29:06 pm »
Quote from: CrazyWR on January 21, 2012, 06:13:19 pm
Which is just stupid, if storms counter your company, you need to have a counter for them. To do otherwise and then complain is just ridiculous.
O NOES, MY TIGER CANT RAPE ENEMY COMPANY WITH 6 ATGS, NERF ATGS PLS
If I dont have counter for sniper in my coy,can I complain that he is OP and that I cant deal with him if I dont tailor my coy for that
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smurfORnot
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #27 on:
January 21, 2012, 06:31:19 pm »
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B) What if I can't micro a sniper?
well,if you cant micro a sniper,but he can micro his storms,than he is better player than you,so you already lost...
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Computer991
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #28 on:
January 21, 2012, 06:46:35 pm »
Quote from: smurfORnot on January 21, 2012, 06:31:19 pm
well,if you cant micro a sniper,but he can micro his storms,than he is better player than you,so you already lost...
Microing a sniper is much driffrent from using storms, 1 unit who gets countered by a unit who gets specific bonuses to kill that unit is not the same as a 4 man squad who can carry a med pack and is affected by doctrine bonuses such as blitzkrieg.
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spinn72
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #29 on:
January 21, 2012, 07:44:39 pm »
A med pack won't save you from a sniper bullet! From my experience, if an enemy knows that you have a sniper on the field, they're usually reluctant to push storms forward. Storms cost more than snipers from memory, too (with shreks).
Storms aren't the hardest unit in the game to counter, they're just not as straightforward. The four points I stated above is what I used to use to counter storms, and rarely did I have a problem with them.
Really with the sniper, all you need to do is keep it behind your frontline, because storms need to be reasonably close to hit anything. If they're attacking shermans, then the sherman will also get a shot off on the storms before they can run away too. If you can take out one or two men per storm volley, you're winning in my books. When we start talking about LV's like M8's then the conversation is a little different, but I never used LV's seriously anyway
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I understand what you're saying Computer, and i've probably already tried to get my point across by using scenarios which is a horrible way to do so, but really, how can storms be OP at 250/300 mu or whatever they cost now? Sure, they have a massively high damage output and survivability, but they have a really high cost and a couple of glaring weaknesses being with the elite armour t4 and tank accuracy, snipers still one shotting, often being shot after barraging due to slow cloak times.
In the end, like every other unit, it's risk vs reward. Just on a much larger scale!
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Smokaz
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #30 on:
January 21, 2012, 09:13:56 pm »
Meh, you talk about doctrine choices good at countering storms, but storms themselves are a very small doctrine investment as a T1 and while certain british doctrine choices are exellent at turning down ambush strategies, his stormtroopers will still be effective against other builds while you as commandos or RE will be giving up combat buffs for your detection.
For americans I have no comment really, because their units are sacrificial, good at
chasing
and have the BAR to pin them. Stormies are don't plague them to the same degree. Outside of doctrines, brits dont have any of that shit and the CCT spam is a problem in itself because its stupidly tough for cost.
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Computer991
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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January 21, 2012, 09:50:09 pm »
asdfasd
I retract my statement.
Well if americans were to get a cloaked unit that mirrored rangers I'm sure axis wouldn't be happy with it
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spinn72
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #32 on:
January 22, 2012, 03:15:39 am »
Quote from: Computer991 on January 21, 2012, 09:50:09 pm
Well if americans were to get a cloaked unit that mirrored rangers I'm sure axis wouldn't be happy with it
I'd come back and play if such a unit existed
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #33 on:
January 27, 2012, 03:01:33 pm »
Why the fuck was this stickied
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smurfORnot
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #34 on:
January 27, 2012, 03:04:53 pm »
mods fail?
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LeoPhone
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #35 on:
January 27, 2012, 03:31:44 pm »
Quote from: Unkn0wn on January 27, 2012, 03:01:33 pm
Why the fuck was this stickied
LOL TANK130 NINJA STICKY FOR HATE AGAINST STORMS PROPAGANDA
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aeroblade56
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #36 on:
January 27, 2012, 03:37:23 pm »
storms are gay the idea of using a jeep to counter unrealistic. and we only have enigma decoded inc ommando doctrine that counters that.
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smurfORnot
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #37 on:
January 27, 2012, 03:44:02 pm »
only 1 doctrine has storms,only 1 doc has 'super' counter to them...
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jackmccrack
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #38 on:
January 27, 2012, 03:58:17 pm »
2 Allied doctrines get Mark Target (C.mando & Armour)
and C.mando doctrine has THE BEST awareness abilities (Enigma Decoded, Ultra Decryption{Mark Target}, Radio Triangulation, C.mando jeep)
Put the CCT behind a shot blocker, lock that shit down, it's GG Storms, seeya in the launcher
"But Jack, why should I have to change coy to fight against Storms?"
Well because the launcher allows 10 profiles
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tank130
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Re: Tell me, your very own reason Why...
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Reply #39 on:
January 27, 2012, 04:38:01 pm »
I sure as the fuck did not sticky this topic!!!
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