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[smurfORnot]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870211/

Based on true story,good movie if you wanna watch it.
Guess what,guy who is responsible for this,you know how long will he spent time in jail,NOTHING,yea,nothing...thats American Justice 

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/iraqi-outrage-us-marine-walks-free-massacre

[Scotzmen]

Honestly, watched it, expected more, it was shit. Absolutly shit.

If that movie portrayed the actual skills of the american soldiers, then no wonder they can't do nothing.

Shit acting, shit everything. Nothing even akin to Black hawk down.

[GORKHALI]

American left Iraq coz Iraq started to punish american soldiers who missbehave or commit crimes ,I guess this is happend at the start of the war when Iraq people had no power or goverment ,and now he is living freely as veteran in amreica where Iraq goverment can't even touch him,there r many cases which happend during the war,which r not even brought to light so this film is nothing compared what is still going on in afghan and Iraq...

with war comes always crimes 

[smurfORnot]

do you think if Iraqi went nuts and killed 24 american soldiers,cuz he 'snapped' when he saw em kill his family would get unpunished and walked away freely 

[Demon767]

American soldiers do suck though lol There technology is what kills.

[Groundfire]

American soldiers do suck though lol There technology is what kills.

Interesting. Considering how nationality does not keep anyone from learning martial prowess, or how to fire a weapon better.

I know a few gents who would turn you into a pretzel, demon.

[Demon767]

If you think they don't suck, you're wrong!
It's like saying you enjoy someone singing completely out of tune,
Or reading a book covered in brown sauce.
I know its your opinion, but your opinion is just wrong!

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/5284-Sonic-Generations

[smurfORnot]

give em same things as taliban,which is basically only ak47 and rpg in most cases,see who fares better...oh yeah,they couldnt win with all technology they got.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhGIFLWadEU

[Sachaztan]

Demon and smurf, in order for what you say to make any sense what so ever one of two things must be true:

1:Americans are so genetecally different from the rest of the world that it shows in combat.
2:The training GIs get is worse than the training taliban gets.

[smurfORnot]

my friend,you are vastly underestimating taliban
russians did that too before,so did americans now

GI's get few months of training,while taliban are fighting for generations now + they are on home teritorry...

[Sachaztan]

my friend,you are vastly underestimating taliban
russians did that too before,so did americans now

GI's get few months of training,while taliban are fighting for generations now + they are on home teritorry...

Yeah they are on their home territory, which is a massive advantage (not to mention the insidious terrain). How well do you think a Taliban would fare fighting in New York?

If USA invaded Sweden I could hide in the forests where I live and be a major pain in the ass for americans. If me and a few friends also had weapons+ammo then the americans would need 100+ soldiers to root us out and that wouldn't even guarantee success! Do you really think that makes me a better soldier?

[Mysthalin]

Smurf - Soviet Conscripts serving in Afghanistan had some of the shittiest military training in modern history, also being largely drafted from occupied states themselves. The majority of the "military training" they had was basically learning how to take an unending stream of racist shit from Russian superiors, rather than actually getting taught how to fire or use small squad tactics (which is what was necessary in Afghanistan for success).

[smurfORnot]

If me and a few friends also had weapons+ammo then the americans would need 100+ soldiers to root us out and that wouldn't even guarantee success! Do you really think that makes me a better soldier?

so if americans need 100+ soldiers to root away few armed civilians,then yeah,I consider them to be pretty shitty tbh.

[Sachaztan]

so if americans need 100+ soldiers to root away few armed civilians,then yeah,I consider them to be pretty shitty tbh.

On the other hand it would require 1000+ talibans

[TheVolskinator]

U.S. troops, in contrast to Taliban fighters:

Learned some form of self defense training. These are also big, beefy guys by default, especially after training. When playing a nice friendly game of "swing your LMG at the other guy's face", how do you think a possibly mal-nourished, spindly taliban fighter would fare in comparison.

Were taught how to properly hold and fire an assault rifle, LMG, and disposable AT launcher accurately, regardless of nationality or type of the weapon. Proper posture etc (left arm UNDER the weapon, right arm raised parrallel with the line of the shoulders etc) helps maintain accuracy, as opposed to a lot of the Taliban troops we see who are spraying their AKs like a 10 year old playing CoD.

Have VASTLY superior logistical support.

Have VASTLY superior medical support.

Have undisputed aerial supremicy.

Have a vast array of modern weapons, body armor, and mechanized vehicles that far outclass the cold war tech the Taliban regularly bring to bear.

Are trained in advanced small unit military tactics.

While it's true thatcompared to other countries' professional armies, the U.S. army's composition of 'citizen soldiers' might be considered a limitation, the quality of troops the U.S. can field is equal to that of any country with a standing professional army (take for example the faceoff against Saddam's NON CONSCRIPT PROFESSIONAL Republican Guard, who were comparitively trained and very well armed.

[PonySlaystation]

so if americans need 100+ soldiers to root away few armed civilians,then yeah,I consider them to be pretty shitty tbh.

If they are armed they are no longer civilians.

[deadbolt]

if its american and based on a true story, u can be sure that the movie will portrait absolutely nothing related to real life 

[Sachaztan]

if its american and based on a true story, u can be sure that the movie will portrait absolutely nothing related to real life 

[smurfORnot]

If they are armed they are no longer civilians.

yea,because when someone picks up a rifle,they magically suddenly become RAMBO!

[Sachaztan]

yea,because when someone picks up a rifle,they magically suddenly become RAMBO!

Thats what you seem to think