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[Tymathee]

better safe than sorry, thats the American way!

[Demon767]

sighhh was away to far long and cbb reading 3 pages of shit.

soooooo ill just reply to the nearest post to my last comment.

Smurf...  your post is what some call, common sense, which is why only you brought it up. It doesnt need to be said. think outside the box!

[smurfORnot]

better safe than sorry, thats the American way!

you should just nuke the Iran,you know,better to be safe than sorry 

And it truly amazes me that someone who lives on the opposite side of the world and does not live with in the rules of America can so boldly state that it is no longer the same "America" or that all of their freedoms have been removed.

The only real knowledge you can gain is from the internet or news channels. All of which is typically slanted toward the view of the reporter or writer.

yea,because in 21.st it's so hard to get to information,probably all information you can get from internet and news is just false.  All those talk about SOPA now,this is just probably bullshit,some news reporter got it all wrong,and yea,since I am not in America,I am probably getting it wrong,it's clearly a good thing,Stop online piracy,why da fuck dont you want to stop it,even from it's name,I can tell you it's a good things,things that are people writing on net about it are all bullshit,cuz I know,internet is full of lies.

It's bad enough that this can happen at all, that it's a regular and common occurance is pure nightmare fuel. Thankfully I don't look like I come from the middle east and i'm not a muslim, but if I were I could be abducted and tortured by the USA for no real reason.

Lies Sachaztan! News reporter probably got it all wrong,you cant thrust information you find on internet.

For example: "you can be detained INDEFINITELY by the US military without any trial or procedure resembling that of a democratic law-based society"

Well perhaps theoretically you could do this, but why the fuck would you. The whole purpose of this law is to ensure a speedy process on terrorism instead of waiting for the 5 year back log in the judicial system.
If you just started detaining every Tom, Dick, and Harry, that really had nothing to do with  terrorism, then you would just create the same back log you were trying to avoid.

And what's stopping them to detain every Tom,Dick...? Law clearly isnt. You can tell common sense,but that thing is gone long ago too...
You should have law that police officers can shot to kill on sight,even if they dont see gun,just in case,guy can be terrorist or mass murderer,so better to be safe than sorry later.

[Scotzmen]

you cant thrust information you find on internet.

[Baine]

This forum is open aswell, right?



SMOKAZ IS GOING TO DESTROY AMERICA! GO GET HIM CIA!

[smurfORnot]

he will get full body search when he goes to the US and A!

[Unkn0wn]

And it truly amazes me that someone who lives on the opposite side of the world and does not live with in the rules of America can so boldly state that it is no longer the same "America" or that all of their freedoms have been removed.

The only real knowledge you can gain is from the internet or news channels. All of which is typically slanted toward the view of the reporter or writer.

It amazes me the amount of fear mongering people like Unknown and others try to spew on the internet.

For example: "you can be detained INDEFINITELY by the US military without any trial or procedure resembling that of a democratic law-based society"

Well perhaps theoretically you could do this, but why the fuck would you. The whole purpose of this law is to ensure a speedy process on terrorism instead of waiting for the 5 year back log in the judicial system.
If you just started detaining every Tom, Dick, and Harry, that really had nothing to do with  terrorism, then you would just create the same back log you were trying to avoid.

Seriously? It's ok to have these kind of gross violations of human rights for supposed 'terrorists'? The law should PREVENT this from ever being possible, just because the obama administration doesn't abuse it doesn't mean there can't be some point in the future in which some dick wad president will. If you can't see this, then honestly I don't think you even deserve to live in a democratic society. (Since you are clearly too ignorant of fundamental democratic principles) I mean heck, what's stopping them from labelling everyone who doesn't agree with them as 'extremists' sooner or later? The US is already building s a record of refusing entry (They check passenger lists) to people belonging to 'leftist' organisations, supposedly on grounds of potential 'terrorism' or 'extremism'.

Also, you're honestly an idiot if you are going to try to catch me on the fact that I'm European and thus supposedly 'ignorant'. FYI I have a masters in politicial science, majoring international politics. I probably know more about US politics than most Americans, or you, do. So cut the shitty attempts at personal attacks.

[Mysthalin]

better safe than sorry, thats the American way!

*Cough cough* Teenage pregnancy rates due to active repression of contraceptive methods in the bible belt*Cough cough*

[PartyJaeger]

i appreciate this kind of discussions, for me - i gained knowledge that no matter what corner of world, same ppl will have same arguments, as i said this thread demonstrates 2 kinds of ppl, and of course 1 of them sure brings their rock argument, like we do it for cause u would QQ if something happen - so u know we protect, u r free to do as we tell u...

it is same with everything, no tank, there is no 3rd category, only ppl like u think it is like that.

1. I like to party, i like to smoke stuff. 2.Derp u cannot do this. 1. Why? 2. Because its dangerous and we must protect u. 1. But I want it to be exciting that is why i am doing it. 2. But if something happened u would QQ and we would have take care of u, so better safe than sorry. 1. But I dont fucking care, I want to simply enjoy my life cause i value my living activities more than my shitty job, so i like to take drugs, i am not retarded and know risks so i even like for example jaywalking OMG!!! - So pls oppresion lovers, oppres me with some new legislation, like I sign you I wont QQ about anything and so on. 2. Derp, simply NO and i forgot we have another news for you, from now on we have quota on amount of salt allowed on food, my name is tank130 and to spare u too many irrelevant questions, we are the ppl that thinks that if u have nothing to hide u dont have anything to worry about, we r ppl that have no value in privacy, we believe what our goverment says and we would not think even for a moment that some intentions may fail on human level, so we root naively for this ideas like minions of masters whos solely purpose is hunger for power and control, but they mean it honest u know. So Derp pls march on, and dont ask these stupid questio, no u should know that all is only game like it always was...


On another anecdotical note - last week with collegues at lunch we stumbled on discussion about mein kampf (i didnt read it, but i thought i knew content), to my surprise one of them mentioned excerpts where AH talks about exactly these kind of 'features' why goverments are bound to evil routes, i laughed because maybe this is one of true reasons why is this book banned, ppl cannot know system is flawed and doesnt matter who is on top, he will seek only power for himself

[DarkSoldierX]

Personaly I just think lots of people have a rebel fetish.

[Sachaztan]

Some of these posts are a confusing mess srsly...

[tank130]

1. I like to party, i like to smoke stuff. 2.Derp u cannot do this. 1. Why? 2. Because its dangerous and we must protect u. 1. But I want it to be exciting that is why i am doing it. 2. But if something happened u would QQ and we would have take care of u, so better safe than sorry. 1. But I dont fucking care, I want to simply enjoy my life cause i value my living activities more than my shitty job, so i like to take drugs, i am not retarded and know risks

Excellent: You feel it is your right and freedom to take drugs (assuming illegal ofc) and you don't fucking care because it is your life.

If you lived in a bubble, this may be acceptable. The fact is, if you take too many, then your sorry fucked up ass becomes a burden on the heath care systems. Your drugged up or drunk decisions can result in the death of others due to your inability to make a rational decision.

Your potential addictions lead to lose of income and then you are forced to steal from others to feed your habit.

If you are in an overdose state, you will be taking up a much needed hospital bed while some innocent child sits in a waiting room of the over crowded hospital.

It is this selfish me / me / me attitude that forces our states and nations to have rules. Rules to protect the majority from the irresponsible minority.


I would have read more of your post if it was not a continuous non stop mash of words. "wall of text"

[smurfORnot]

The fact is, if you take too many, then your sorry fucked up ass becomes a burden on the heath care systems.

doesnt health care in USA work in a way...you can either pay for it,or basically 'get lost',cuz if you dont have money we wont give it to you? Cuz from what I heard people dont go to doctors if they rly dont have to(yea,some american students told me that this summer) because health care is quite expensive and it's not free!


Now you are just overexerting tank,if guy smokes something illegal that doesnt automatically mean that he will start to steal,overdose himself,lose job,kill bunch of people etc.

In a same way you can say,if you come with a car to a bar,bartender can only give you 2-3 beers,because if you get drunk and go drive home,you can kill someone,if you end in car accident,you will take bed in hospital from child and so on,so should we limit served alcohol? Oh yea,also you dont have to come with a car,you can be quite drunk and walk accidentaly on the road in front of a car,thus starting accident. You can become agressive when you drink and end in a fight,and potentially harm someone. So why are we not limiting alcohol that can be served to people?
It would be logical so we can protect majority from those minority who cant control their drinking problems or just drink and drive or drink and start a fight etc. So why are we not enforcing this?

[tank130]

In the united states and Canada, the establishment serving the alcohol has a legal responsibility to not over serve a patron.
http://www.servingitright.com/alcohol_and_law_appendix_2.html

In Canada all people who serve alcohol must have a "Serving right" certification.

This does not guarantee people do not get drunk, but it puts some responsibility on the servers to care for their patrons. The patron in a drunkin state does not have the mental capacity to make good judgment calls. I am not going to go into the long lost of legal ramifications and arguments for and against.

The chances of an impaired person (drug or alcohol) causing an accident resulting in death, by walking is very, very slim. Statistics confirm that. However, the chances of an impaired person (drug or alcohol) causing an accident resulting in death, by motor vehicle is very, very high. Thus the laws are in place to protect the majority from the minority.

In Canada, the health care is free, so you are causing a burden on the health care system in both money and resources.
In the USA, in most cases, health care must be funded by the individual, or the company they work for. While your actions may not create a financial burden to the system, you are taking up valuable resources. The doctors and nurses that should be taking care of the sick child are spending their time saving your sorry ass.

It would be logical so we can protect majority from those minority who cant control their drinking problems or just drink and drive or drink and start a fight etc. So why are we not enforcing this?

They do protect the majority (the people who can handle their alcohol) by imposing fines and jail time for the assault. We have strict drinking & driving laws to punish the minority who can not make responsible decisions.
We also take steps in the early years of people lives to educate on the dangers of drugs, alcohol, and driving. For the minority who choose their personal freedom over the safety and welfare of others, we have laws and punishments.

Because of the minority who feel their personal; freedom is more important than the welfare of others, our judicial system is overwhelmed with bullshit. So when the time comes to process terrorists, are system is so fucked up and full, we can not process them in life saving time.

So, then comes the new terrorist act. So all these "it my right to Freedom" people bitch an complain, break the rules and fill the system, causing the system they are so pissed about to begin with.

[PartyJaeger]

yeah, same same arguments ad infinitum


as smurf pointed out, there is or was different healthcare in america AFAIK, yet ppl like u still dont answer my question why it is bad for me to control what i eat or whatever: so why no put up some legislation where i give up any my QQs and healthcare demands, agree to shoot me if doing robbery (i think some law already deal with this, no? ), just let me be and do my drugs... i am afraid there is no answer from you, simply because game is not about that, it is always about power. In case of drugs, it is 1. fear that drugs tends to make ppl think, ppl who think tend to question goverment or even aspire to take lead etc. 2. some drugs u found in nature, and somehow none goverment found way how to tax it ,lol

Maybe i will burst your bubble, i dunno how old r u but i can assure you at least in my area a lot of middle-aged ppl from various sectors, middle-management are preffering to smoke pot instead of that other drug, u know legal drug alcohol. So what, i encounter very often ppl saying same arguments like u, so i can even predict them, what amazes me is how all say and expect same thing: like scene from movie, junkie injecting heroin, crying mother, robbery etc. They cant grasp the fact that i am normally working person who just prefer different means of relaxation, they cannot understand that they see me in suit. I am flabbergasted who they think is making TV shows, ads or other creative to entertain them, they think that the same 'normal' ppl as them are making them!

that is exactly why ppl like u fail our POV, u automatically assume that i am junkie, that i overdose, that i kill u to take that another hit, that i am communist, that i only like to rebel, that i need protection from u. i am sad that ppl cant understand that others may have other measures for quality of living. I am not some human-atm for my goverment and its media indoctrination and naive minions.

to sum it up:

concept was invented by romans, they found out that majority of ppl are dumb or lazy and 'bread and games' is sufficient for them to not question goverment moves... today equivalent is cheap beer and TV. I think there must be ppl like me, because this is believe it or not me protecting you this time questioning moves u would not question otherwise because...

When they came for the Jews, I remained silent, because I'm Jewish.
When they came for the communists, I remained silent, because I am not a communist.
When they came for the trade unionists, I said nothing because I am not a trade unionist.
When they came for the homosexuals, I said nothing because I'm gay.
Finally they came for me. Unfortunately there was no one who would defend me.

[Baine]

And comon, smoking does not just involve yourself.

I hate it when people stand next to me and i get all the smoke.

[PartyJaeger]

actually, i think smoking is the most interesting example (i mean regular, not pot). it is drug but ´majority´ wont acknowledge - lets say it is society acceptable drug, but what i am curious about is what happens if regular smokers realize that they are in actual numbers 50/50 with non-smokers. who is majority now, who will be first to shout democracy ?

[CrazyWR]

our government has certainly been hijacked.

yea...the Bush administration passed a lot of stupid shit that needs repealed.

[Tymathee]

And comon, smoking does not just involve yourself.

I hate it when people stand next to me and i get all the smoke.

agreed. i have slight asthma and am quite sensitive to heavy particulites like smoke and and aresols, i just can't breathe around them and smoking is worse with me, i dont even cough, i just stop breathing.

[Sachaztan]

Absolutely incoherent wall of text

Didn't think I would ever say this, but your posts would probably make more sense if you wrote in your native language and then made a machine translation. Google translate is a good one.

And we all know how "great" machine translations are...