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[tankmaster23]

 National Socialism is the cure, to bad it never got the chance to flourish..

 Get rid of the money grubbing unhealthy practice of these dare I say it jews with the philosophy of money money money and instead make it the people and the well being of the community has a whole. Also  focus on basic human needs like food and the farmer shelter heath care and proper endorsement of over all healthy living and well being of the earth...


 Rocksitter...

ps no jews were harmed in the making of this post ..

[Demon767]

Darksoldier, i study management at university and what we have studied is exactly the same shown in that video. And the motivations are not as clear cut as shown in that video. Its psychology, and if you know about psychology, then you know how many variables there are that change our behaviours. The key term is motivators, every single person has different motivators. Money alone, as a motivator will NEVER be enough to increase production, and due to the subjectiveness of most Performance related pay, it can infact reduce the overall effectiveness of the workforce as some feel that they deserve more money for the work they did in-comparison to others.

As visually shown in the video. The base rate of your pay is just the motivation for you to Sit at the job. Organisation culture, rituals, stories of famous people in the organisation, material symbols, language will motivate your employees (in conjuction with surpise pay bonus) will motivate employees exceedingly.

management dynamics 4th edition PEARSON

ps. Let me make it clear that having to complete the unit ive needed to conduct my own research, and the research ive done seem to agree with this concept. When i have my own business i know i am going to have a lot of fun moulding my section culture, no Tank whipping there.

[DarkSoldierX]

No it's not, the government can't control the economy without organizational problems.

Can you tell me, why would the government have organizational problems?

[brn4meplz]

Can you tell me, why would the government have organizational problems?

Cause all governments do?

[Killer344]

Kids nowadays, thinking some university degree will magically teach them how to run a business lulz.

Without taking into the account the necessary funds to even take off.




Tank's method, from what few truths I could gather from his many (and usually good) cynic jokes, are among the best.

[Tymathee]

Can you tell me, why would the government have organizational problems?

because most of them go to school to learn how to be politicians and law and not how to run a business, its why we get so many stupid laws.

I personally favor a politician who has successfully ran a company from ground up because they will understand more about how to run the country than someone who knows the right things to say.

Actions > Words

but words sound better and people are idiots.

unfortuntely, most americans dont pay attention to politics until someone says something on the news or a talk show.

[DarkSoldierX]

Cause all governments do?

Can you please think in the context that i am posting in before you post something dumb like that?

Of course all governments have some organizational problems. I am using the question to compare true communism with a far more mature people(just like I said in my earlier post) to the other forms of government.

Now, if pony would give me a answer.

[Sachaztan]

Wheres the sources for that? I searched a bit and I fail to find the studies described of in the video. In order for me to believe this(First half of video) I need to see the research data.Theres a few retarded mongs here and there that think perfect equality is a great idea to implement now.

But in all seriousness communism is the perfect system, but in order for it to work humanity has to be mature enough for it. And humanity is very far from getting that to that point.

Took me about 5 minutes to find the study. I can't help to think you didn't try very hard.
http://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/55603/1/505087677.pdf

But after saying this: "But in all seriousness communism is the perfect system"

I really can't take you seriously now.

[Sach]

Religous fundamentalism.


Do what we say or eternal damnation.


If theres a better form of government I've not seen it.

[Mysthalin]

1. You do realise your link corroborates exactly what I said? People are objectively better off and they realise it - but their emotional well being doesn't actually increase.

2. What the video talks about is, specifically - cognitive process motivation. As unfortunate as it may be - menial labour has been and will probably always be a rather major part of our lives - and if the people doing hard, if not sophisticated work are unmotivated to actually do their jobs well - everyone will feel the burden at the end of the day. Money may not be the universal motivator (I never claimed it was) - but as far as mind-numbing menial labour is concerned, it remains very important.

3. What other kind of equality would I be talking about as being bad if I myself have said I believe there's probably a "golden point" of partial equality at which gross happiness can be maximised?


Also, I'm kind of sure the original Communist Manifesto had nothing to do with the whole planned economy bollocks - it merely talked about wealth redistribution, and I don't think it was ever meant to be an evil dictatorship. Kind of hard to watch out for the rights of the common folk when you're too busy pointing AK-47s at them. It just seems like too much of a self-defeating system to me.

[DarkSoldierX]

I really can't take you seriously now.

*sigh* another guy who doesnt understand what a true communist world would be.

[Vermillion_Hawk]

*sigh* another guy who doesnt understand what a true communist world would be.

True Communism cannot exist off of the paper it is written on purely because it relies upon the good will of the people in power during the Dictatorship of the Proletariat phase to willingly concede absolute power. There's another adage that goes "absolute power corrupts absolutely", and that is precisely what happened with Lenin and Stalin, among other instances of human error that made the Soviet Union little more than a failed experiment.

So yes, he does understand what a "true" Communist world would be like, since the unique brand of Communism employed in Soviet Russia is the only form of Communism that will ever see the light of day.

Additionally, the original Manifesto, I believe, did in fact talk about a sort of planned economy, where Marx advocated "from each according to ability, to each according to need", an obviously flawed system if one looks a bit beyond the whole "everyone's happy" nonsense.

[DarkSoldierX]

True Communism cannot exist off of the paper it is written on purely because it relies upon the good will of the people in power during the Dictatorship of the Proletariat phase to willingly concede absolute power. There's another adage that goes "absolute power corrupts absolutely", and that is precisely what happened with Lenin and Stalin, among other instances of human error that made the Soviet Union little more than a failed experiment.

So yes, he does understand what a "true" Communist world would be like, since the unique brand of Communism employed in Soviet Russia is the only form of Communism that will ever see the light of day.

No, if you or sach read my post you would understand what I meant.

But in all seriousness communism is the perfect system, but in order for it to work humanity has to be mature enough for it. And humanity is very far from getting that to that point.

You know what I mean by that right?

A world were humanity has evolved past the point of being superior to each other? Where the mentality has changed to which noone needs to be the best person. But they all will work hard for the best of humanity.

[Vermillion_Hawk]

Exactly my point: that will never happen. Thomas More wrote truly when he used the word "Utopia" as the title of his now-famous work. Such a paradise could not exist on Earth.

[Spartan_Marine88]

Such a paradise could not exist on Earth as Earth exists today.

Fixed

[DarkSoldierX]

Exactly my point: that will never happen. Thomas More wrote truly when he used the word "Utopia" as the title of his now-famous work. Such a paradise could not exist on Earth.

And that's what makes it the perfect system. A utopia would use communism.

[Vermillion_Hawk]

And that's what makes it the perfect system. A utopia would use communism.

My point was that "Utopia" was, I believe, Greek for "no place". Human nature will not change, the animalistic desires that drive men apart are part of the very genetics of humanity, and to change that would be to change the very definition of us as a species. Suffice to say that Communism could not exist in a world populated by humans.

[DarkSoldierX]

My point was that "Utopia" was, I believe, Greek for "no place". Human nature will not change, the animalistic desires that drive men apart are part of the very genetics of humanity, and to change that would be to change the very definition of us as a species. Suffice to say that Communism could not exist in a world populated by humans.

Doesn't change that communism is for the perfect society

[Mysthalin]

Doesn't change that communism is for the perfect society

Perfect.. in what sense? What is it perfect for? What do you even define perfection as?

[Vermillion_Hawk]

Well said Tig.