Last finishing touch to initiate golden age of EIRR w/warmap

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[Smokaz]

Add mechanic that forces stacks to play each other, or players with high % to play each other.

Add dimnishing returns for "easy victories"

if you need someone to brainstorm this with eirrmod, we can have one of our talks about it next time we're both on

[hans]

aye, or at least a better joining system.

[8thRifleRegiment]

All these roflteams are gunna do around with the excuse "they joined us" all day stomping these poor noobs who only want to participate in the warmap.
Itll just be a race to who can stomp the most

[Unkn0wn]

What you are asking for is essentially a matchmaking system, since that is the only way to reliably and acceptably force stacks to play one another. I'm not sure if EIRRmod still has it planned, and where it is on his priority list.

For the time being, as a stopgap, we could think of ways to give stacks vs stacks a bigger incentive. (Whether through bragging rights or through company or warmap bonuses) What if we gave stacks vs stacks a +15% veterancy gain rate? It would mitigate the fear of losing vet in a hard game to an extent and represent the fact that your troops are facing off versus strong opponents. Additionally, facing off against much higher/lower elo teams could just give the stacking team  -/+15 procent xp gain rate

So it'd look like this
Stack vs Stack both sides +15% xp
Stack vs Stomp: +15% for the stomped side -15% for the stacked side. This way you'd also keep 'worse players' competitive in terms of vet and level the playing field to some extent.

[8thRifleRegiment]

i like that idea, but the dead units dont gain vet, normally when people are stmoped, not much survives.

[Unkn0wn]

Could also give a reroll chance to teams being stomped I suppose.

[3rdCondor]

matchmaking? or scramble system?

[skaffa]

EIRmod has to implement his automatch.
 

[Nug]

EIRmod has to implement his automatch.
 

+1

and if someone leaves in-game because he don't like his team , he should have some penalties, like PP reduction, reset all vet to 0 etc

[PonySlaystation]

I will not squander with peasants!

[Ahnungsloser]

People just refuse to play with new players, that's the complete mircale.

Yesterday I had five games in a row with a complete new player who tempt to camp and the spawn (And I lost all of them) but I was still playing against a decent team - Every ask for "May one of you switch the teams to make the game even?" got just refused.

So what?
It's not a bug in a system, it's just an easy way to exploit this, sad that there is a mechanic needed who forces balanced team. (And even if this
get's implemented it will fail - Look at the vCoH automatch system)

[hans]

People just refuse to play with new players, that's the complete mircale.

Yesterday I had five games in a row with a complete new player who tempt to camp and the spawn (And I lost all of them) but I was still playing against a decent team - Every ask for "May one of you switch the teams to make the game even?" got just refused.

So what?
It's not a bug in a system, it's just an easy way to exploit this, sad that there is a mechanic needed who forces balanced team. (And even if this
get's implemented it will fail - Look at the vCoH automatch system)

so true! i dont know if theres sth coming but imo we need a better and improved joining system, maybe with rewards for weaker teams. High prio? idk, but for me yeah

[PrinceOfScotland]

People just refuse to play with new players, that's the complete mircale.

Yesterday I had five games in a row with a complete new player who tempt to camp and the spawn (And I lost all of them) but I was still playing against a decent team - Every ask for "May one of you switch the teams to make the game even?" got just refused.

So what?
It's not a bug in a system, it's just an easy way to exploit this, sad that there is a mechanic needed who forces balanced team. (And even if this
get's implemented it will fail - Look at the vCoH automatch system)

yeah, the problem isnt the game making system its the fact that people wont swap sides for an even game or some wont connsider playing a game without a win chance of 98% or above

[hans]

yeah, the problem isnt the game making system its the fact that people wont swap sides for an even game or some wont connsider playing a game without a win chance of 98% or above

if u dont reward the right behaviour u wont reach anything. Right now u get reward for stacking against weaker teams so why should u switch? If u reward weaker teams u are going to get into the right direction and it will be more newbfriendly.

[Ahnungsloser]

if u dont reward the right behaviour u wont reach anything. Right now u get reward for stacking against weaker teams so why should u switch? If u reward weaker teams u are going to get into the right direction and it will be more newbfriendly.

The problem is that I can still understand this behaivor, it makes less fun with newguys in your team and you can't play out nasty strategy if you
have a player in your team who needs to be carry.

Sometimes I go for a carry too but this should not be habit-forming. Maybe there is a completly other soloution for this nuisance.

[Shabtajus]

any system will fail here, who wants play stacks or with friends they will do that and nothing will help vs this thing. You can blame good players for stacking but i understand them, its aint fun to w8 for game having decent team8 or friend and not geting a game after 3h, or joining a game and oposite players imediatlely dodging with a scream of STACK, and same dodgers joins vs u when u have weak team to hunt u down, all good players has a mark of a target to be catch of those dodgers. And allways the same word and the same excuses, i suggest watch at mirrow for some guys who QQ about stacks before talking BS

[Blanzalot]

For some of us who dont have as much time as stackers to wait for a game sometimes make do vs stacks so we can play.  Its not much fun but I get my EIR fix and then back to life.
When I join vs a stack and good players join me, i get a laugh how stackers suddenly call for game balance or hear a whine song.  Just part of the ugly reality to play a really well thought out mod.

[Nug]

any system will fail here, who wants play stacks or with friends they will do that and nothing will help vs this thing. You can blame good players for stacking but i understand them, its aint fun to w8 for game having decent team8 or friend and not geting a game after 3h, or joining a game and oposite players imediatlely dodging with a scream of STACK, and same dodgers joins vs u when u have weak team to hunt u down, all good players has a mark of a target to be catch of those dodgers. And allways the same word and the same excuses, i suggest watch at mirrow for some guys who QQ about stacks before talking BS

Haha Shab one of the stackers of the mod has spoken.

qq shab soon you won't stack 

[hans]

() here, who wants play stacks or with friends they will do that and nothing will help vs this thing. You can blame good players for stacking but i understand them, its aint fun to w8 for game having decent team8 or friend and not geting a game after 3h, or joining a game and oposite players imediatlely dodging with a scream of STACK, and same dodgers joins vs u when u have weak team to hunt u down, all good players has a mark of a target to be catch of those dodgers. And allways the same word and the same excuses, i suggest watch at mirrow for some guys who QQ about stacks before talking BS

+2

[Shabtajus]

Nugx u balance retard learn wut does it means stackers and dodgers, ur coments is more idiotic than some1 could expect, yes i have friends with who i play but i never leave a game when better players joins vs me and everytime i am going to play vs them so go fuck yourself Nugx lol u r bad, thats all