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[Tharulerme]

By the way Faltnor, I appreciate the kitten and the pancake but there's 2 "what you" 's in that text.

[Wraith547]

eh FoW was cool for a few days, but I really didn't feel like it really required any skill.

Send inf to death/screen my tank

Tank snipe

rinse and repeat

MP btw, the single player was fun/infuriating

Also out of 15 or so matches I played, a grand total of one made it to a conclusion. All the others crashed or desynced. I think I will stick with vOF till EiR comes back. I have CC2 ABTF if I need a realism fix

[Thtb]

And someone else falmed that the MP was epic but the SP is failure.

Maybe you just suck to hard.

[Wraith547]

Or maybe you could try a little harder not to be a jackass

Being so passive-aggressive is unbecoming

[Thtb]

It´s just that some players (especially CoH-RangerSpammers) say the game sucks after playing it once because you actually die if you run straith into a HMG. No magical Fire up Button.

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

i just hate the fact your men are like "screw you! im throwing my at grenades and there is nothing you can do about it!"

[Tharulerme]

I agree with Wraith, the game also is a little too easy.

And something else I hate is that why on earth are in FoW the American's and Brit's through eachother in a same regiment in many of the missions?

FoW just doesn't do it with gameplay (it's a nice type of gameplay but it's not good) and realism...

[Wraith547]

heh sorry I am so pissy today, Econ is kicking my ass and I have been studying the last 20 or so hours.

FoW just isnt my cup of tea. CoH is just much more exciting for me.

PS I don't ranger spam, I just eat rangerspammers for breakfast

[Unkn0wn]

Rangerspam eats you for breakfast.

[Thtb]

I agree with Wraith, the game also is a little too easy.

And something else I hate is that why on earth are in FoW the American's and Brit's through eachother in a same regiment in many of the missions?

FoW just doesn't do it with gameplay (it's a nice type of gameplay but it's not good) and realism...

Umm coud you please finish the toutorial mission and the one following. Then play the NEXT one. No more -God-Mode-to-learn-the-game-

Also Warith please explain to me how you "defeat" it.

[Wraith547]

At my level of play, lvl 7-9 (I don't claim to be a top player), I have found myself falling back on the old favorite of T1-T3 Blitz vet.

Spread your units out, and use MG's (gasp).

I say use MG's because if my memory serves, Rangers don't fire their Thompsons while moving when fired up. Make them pop fire-up and just play a little keep away.

My basic strat is just to bleed them for manpower while I get vet. Blitz and T3 should provide all the tools you need. A puma behind your Inf will be a huge help, and God forbid someone uses the officer with Force retreat. A stuh will fit in nicely. Treat a rangerspammer like a rosebush, just keep pruning it back. Its just like in vCoH, if you let the Wehrmacht hit critical mass you were fucked.

The past 10 or so games I played vs a RSpammer, if I lost it happened well before Rangers hit the field. The best counter to a blob is spread out troops that support each other, and to prevent the blob from getting out of control.

On that note I really feel like MG's need a good increase in damage against clustered units

[Thtb]

And i feel for EiR Rangers need (one of those:)

-Lose Fireup (!!!)
-Have a reasonable Price
-Lose the Zillion CP abilitys that make a OP unit to a Cheap,Godlike Unit.
-Lose Grenades OR Bazooka.
-to be affected by Avalibility
-a increased pop Cap
-A T5 (!)
-Reduced to 4 Man Squad´s
-Lose fireup again
-Die to bullet´s.

-Or remvoe the Insane "OLOLWETAKENODAMAGEFROMARTYORWAHTEVERYOU HAVE"- Fireup- Modiffer
(just the modifer not the ability)
-At least get suppresed at a reasonable rate so they have to use fireup.

-Not outrunn a bike.

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

basicly, they are not that bad, granted they are a pain but that is OTT, maybe a cost tweek here or an availability decrease there but thats about it.

[Days of War]

And i feel for EiR Rangers need (one of those:)

-Lose Fireup (!!!)
-Have a reasonable Price
-Lose the Zillion CP abilitys that make a OP unit to a Cheap,Godlike Unit.
-Lose Grenades OR Bazooka.
-to be affected by Avalibility
-a increased pop Cap
-A T5 (!)
-Reduced to 4 Man Squad´s
-Lose fireup again
-Die to bullet´s.

-Or remvoe the Insane "OLOLWETAKENODAMAGEFROMARTYORWAHTEVERYOU HAVE"- Fireup- Modiffer
(just the modifer not the ability)
-At least get suppresed at a reasonable rate so they have to use fireup.

-Not outrunn a bike.

Fireup, bazookas, and there ability to take damage is the reason you get them.


It's funny, really. They way you always call OP on US things, and I haven't really seen you say anything German is OP.

[acker]

Thtb hasn't played that much COH 1.6 as Infantry, nor has he played EIR 1.4 (has he?). Therefore, he doesn't know how utterly useless Rangers used to be, and how they were recently buffed back to usefulness.

But GG, they really need to figure out a way to stop Ranger Spam in vCOH, it's ridiculous. Thank the deities that EIR uses a munitions system for bazookas. That, along with vanilla Ranger price/availability increases/decreases, should solve Rangers.

Commandos appear to be fine in vCOH.

SINGLE Falls+FG42s appear to be OP. I really don't even need to get into what spammed Falls can do.


Be assured; when EIR comes back online, I will begin to argue with him again.

*edited, could have been flaming otherwise*

But, what I'm most happy about; Rangers can finally kill Stormtroopers.

[Warbirds2]

I've had a Falls squad down to the last man with an FG42, and he took out an entire Commando squad that used a smoke screen and half an infantry section before the other player got mad and just pummeled the lonely guy that lost all his squad mates with artillery.

[DasNoob]

On that note I really feel like MG's need a good increase in damage against clustered units

I agree with this.

[Tharulerme]

I agree with Wraith, the game also is a little too easy.

And something else I hate is that why on earth are in FoW the American's and Brit's through eachother in a same regiment in many of the missions?

FoW just doesn't do it with gameplay (it's a nice type of gameplay but it's not good) and realism...

Umm coud you please finish the toutorial mission and the one following. Then play the NEXT one. No more -God-Mode-to-learn-the-game-

Also Warith please explain to me how you "defeat" it.

Uhm... are you joking? Faces of War is very easy.

[Faltnor]

No its not. It has realistic LOS, making it abit more challening vs COH. I bet your an axis player in COh arent you Thaulerme

[Thtb]

My Bla bla.

Fireup, bazookas, and there ability to take damage is the reason you get them.


It's funny, really. They way you always call OP on US things, and I haven't really seen you say anything German is OP.

Rangers only.
Evrything else in the Game has a weakness.
Lets say the King tiger; as strongest axis unit. It can be; Imobilized, slowed with 1 Sticky. Ripped arpart by 2 Demo´s. Taken out from any anti-tank weapon.
Or say Stromtroopers; They can get suppresed and killed by hmg´s.

Waht helps against a massiv blob of Rangers with Bazooka´s and not even smg´s they dont even need them.
A inf player (with ranger focus) will either have very cheap Rangers, or VERY cheap upgrades.

Tanks and light vehicle die to the Bazooka´s. Trying to keep a distance if hard because of fire up and retarded drivers.

Evrykinde of inf the Axis can have dies to it. You maybe coud kill some rangers at RANGE, but its pointless because of fireup. (witch can also be used to retreat).

HMG´s get raped by Grenades and fireup. (I played vs marine and had 3 HMG´s( ! ) fireing at his mob/blob and they all 3 died (3x 600 mp + ammo gone -_-) to kill around 6 man ("lol"iamcheap"-CP like 200 mp lost).

Arty of anykide  can get outrunned and EVEN if you HIT the fireup modiffer can reduce the damage greatly.

With the many Ability that affect Rangers and especially there life its very hard to kill them. If you think about the triage center its very very hard.


----------But lets say one coud beat it.
at the price of many dead man.

The swarm woud just return in the next fight, stronger, faster, better.

Lets say you kill a king tiger:
No more Tiger for 3-5 Game´s for that guy.