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[Smokaz]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AgLVcyYw-5YFdFFUOVNOcS1nc2s4NV9nd0lsWWNBQnc#gid=0

For people who are not able to participate in the nightly public discussion of this!

My personal thoughts:

- Avre range buff should be +10 at least
- Recharge reduction of avre from middle t3 should be reduced more (maybe 20-25)
- Bottom T2 should make trench stronger defensively than it is doing now
- Explosives buff on bottom t4 seems out of place
- Bofors needs more defensive buffs from this doctrine, particularily its health/armor

[DarkSoldierX]

Time to spam churchills IVs again!

[pqumsieh]

Smokaz, I didn't give you permission to make these doctrines public. If that is what I had intended, I would have just made the post myself . In either event, feedback is welcome but use your head next time.

PQ

[aeroblade56]

I think The curent thing is that the turret rotation is effecting the AVRE, it isnt the cool down as much as it is being able to see the turret rotate or the brick of steel move slowly closer and escaping it.  so i do agree again it needs less cooldown or faster turret speed.

Explosives is out of place but i think it should be in a T3.-T2.

Other then that i like the doctrine.

[NightRain]

Bofors and 17Pdr should be in Support Equipment instead of Churchill Mark IV. Makes Churchill Mark IV a bit too powerful T1 choice as it gives you Churchills, 17Pdrs and Bofors emplacements. Boys AT, 17Pdr and Bofors is agreeable as it doesn't come with a tank.

[aeroblade56]

no ablative plating>? that makes me not want to play RE cause it was essentialy the only heavy allied tanks.

i think a 17lbr with a speed buff of somesort would be nice. its late and i probably didnt read this throughly.

[Groundfire]

Hey guys, we are trying to keep this to the BT. Its a matter of control and releasing a document that is under review just undermines our process.

Just like every other doctrine document released, you gents will nitpick and theory craft it apart before you can try it and we dont want to backtrack on discussions that we've had internally on the matter.

I took down the link until PQ or someone higher gives permission. Whether he releases the drafts before the patch should be decided on it's state of completion and this is not completed yet.

[Groundfire]

Um, nvm. Put everything back..

[8thRifleRegiment]

New level of confusion.

[Unkn0wn]

Ninjas!

[Mister Schmidt]

"The community is becoming self aware! We must terminate!"

[Smokaz]

Just like every other doctrine document released, you gents will nitpick and theory craft it apart before you can try it and we dont want to backtrack on discussions that we've had internally on the matter.

Not personal, but this was my favorite part in a while. Why release anything if its set in stone already?
As for PQ, he shares his links publicly and then after they are shared talks about his intention with sharing it.
Our own personal Assange? I yawn. Sometimes I feel so alone in my rationality.