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Nug Offline
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« on: July 01, 2012, 03:13:25 am »

What if there was no pool? Only buying units based on mp mu and fu?  Maybe it's worth to make a test like this for a week... ?  imo it would make eir gameplay more dynamic, maybe some units easier to balance.
Pool imo is a system like this first WC, limiting too much, sometimes less is more. The balancing could be done by fluctuating the MP MU and FU values.

Take some thought on it pls...
« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 03:15:48 am by Nug » Logged
Ahnungsloser Offline
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2012, 03:21:04 am »

In a world where we have no pool value or a wapeon cache some companies will go banana because they could
spam the weirdest shit without limitations, and some other guys will still build there overall balanced companies
and will have some fucking problems to deal with some sorts of spam.


(But I don't know what's better: Being clever and exploiting the none existent restrictions for company builds for
ultimate gameexperience/trolling, or being stupid and still building no gimmick companies and getting owned for that.)

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Nug Offline
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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2012, 03:22:25 am »

In a world where we have no pool value or a wapeon cache some companies will go banana because they could
spam the weirdest shit without limitations, and some other guys will still build there overall balanced companies
and will have some fucking problems to deal with some sorts of spam.


(But I don't know what's better: Being clever and exploiting the none existent restrictions for company builds for
ultimate gameexperience/trolling, or being stupid and still building no gimmick companies and getting owned for that.)



Yes but look on the other side Ahnung.

When someone has a company with 1 thing, he don't have other things. So if someone wuold have inf only, he would not have tanks, vehs, support etc, and it's easier also to spot which unit then needs buffing or nerfing.

So if someone has balanced company with hmgs vehs etc and knows what he is doing he will still have a fair chance vs inf only company. In the end it's about what it always been - the skill of the player.
Running an inf only company is a skill of its own also, not anyone will win with smth like this.  Inf blob ? 1 hmg and your pinned.

I would even say that building a specific company, is a skill on its own.


I think it would nut hurt to run such a test for a week and see how everyone likes it imo - that's all i'm asking. If we don't like it, then pool it is but hey...... maybe people will like 'no pool' more ?

Pls consider this, i believe it would make EIR better without restricting company build.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 03:39:21 am by Nug » Logged
Unkn0wn Offline
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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2012, 04:32:48 am »

EIR ran without pool for months in the past, if not years . (Between the availability and pool system) So no, we don't need to 'test' to know what it'd be like.
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Shabtajus Offline
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The very best player of one of the four factions.

« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 05:01:38 am »

Nugx wants that for his spam coys haha,  busted Nugx!!!!
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Tries to convince people he's a good guy,says things like this. Scumbag Shab.
EliteGren Offline
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2012, 05:20:22 am »

EIR was totally different. EIRR is like a whole new game. Bring it back for test plz

If the majority of people like it, why the hell not?
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i prefer to no u
Don't knock it til uve tried it bitchface, this isn't anything like salads version. Besides u said a semois conversion would never work, now look that's the most played map, ohgodwhy.jpg r u map lead
hans Offline
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« Reply #6 on: July 01, 2012, 05:35:39 am »

EIR was totally different. EIRR is like a whole new game. Bring it back for test plz

If the majority of people like it, why the hell not?

what would happen? i think everyone would start making super retarded company builds again. 4 or 5 hummels? ab blob with rrs? more than 5 sniper coys? t17 spam coys?  well it has pro and contra points deffinately because it would also make company builds possible that arent right now. but what will survive? good or decent coys or retarded no fun coys.

although, for a certain variety iam up for a test hehe.
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Demon767 Offline
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« Reply #7 on: July 01, 2012, 05:50:31 am »

The positive of this system is that it stops fucking retards making fucking retard companies loosing the game.
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2012, 05:54:24 am »

Mysth can has 80 double repair jeep company?
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EliteGren Offline
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2012, 06:01:02 am »

but what will survive? good or decent coys or retarded no fun coys.

although, for a certain variety iam up for a test hehe.

What is this I don't even..

Kindly tell me who enjoys making and playing with retarded no fun coys? Why would ANY human make something not fun when he has the choice?  Logic come out, you are surrounded.
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Shabtajus Offline
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The very best player of one of the four factions.

« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2012, 06:07:02 am »

well on the other hand why not? just for fun it would be awesome to try some crazy strats and if river of tears will hit forums u just added pool back?
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Nug Offline
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« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2012, 06:16:33 am »

Like Elitegren said. Today we have a different game, much better balance.  Back in the day eir wasn't as balanced as today, and we haven't played without pool in current eir.

I think a test in our EIR wouldn't hurt, we would see different company builds, and if everyone would agree it's more fun like this i don't see why it couldn't stay, if not we would be back to current one.
If we won't play we will never know. It's a win-win for everyone.

Eirmod, Tank, Ground, Unkn and rest do the magic plox.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 06:19:59 am by Nug » Logged
hans Offline
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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2012, 06:19:09 am »

What is this I don't even..

Kindly tell me who enjoys making and playing with retarded no fun coys? Why would ANY human make something not fun when he has the choice?  Logic come out, you are surrounded.

sry for the misunderstanding, i mean if u play against a retarded coy like 80 double repair jeeps (lol, is that even possible) it is for the enemy probably a no fun to play against coy.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 06:25:18 am by hans » Logged
hans Offline
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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2012, 06:20:03 am »

lets make a poll for that. iam deffinately up for a test  Smiley
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2012, 06:20:50 am »

I want 80 double repair jeeps bitches.


Do it.

Now.
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Nug Offline
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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2012, 06:20:52 am »

sry for the misunderstandment, i mean if u play against a retarded coy like 80 double repair jeeps (lol, is that even possible) it is for the enemy probably a no fun to play against coy.

but the 80 jeeps coy won't win you a game because 1 light veh is enough to kill them all lol, so if someone is serious of playing he will not make such a company and if someone wants to troll with 80 jeeps just avoid him next game.
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EliteGren Offline
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« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2012, 06:29:12 am »

sry for the misunderstanding, i mean if u play against a retarded coy like 80 double repair jeeps (lol, is that even possible) it is for the enemy probably a no fun to play against coy.

I see. It goes both ways, everyone can build himself the company he is going to have the most fun playing with. The opposite side might find it retarded, but for the player itself it's hell of a lot of fun. The opposite player is probably also going to make a company he has the most fun with, so it compensates in the end. And also as nug said, 80 jeeps won't win you the game, it's good for a lol inbetween serious games, but nothing competitive.

In addition, why do you think people played old EIR so long? And why the guys at OMG still dream of old EIR to this day? It allowed a lot more freedom.

I'm not a hater of the current implementation of pool, it's good, but I would definitely prefer the old system. Even if it's just for a few days, what is there to lose? Can always roll back the old system if the majority of people do not approve.
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hans Offline
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« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2012, 06:34:25 am »

well how about we make previous EIR weekends, where the pool will get removed for friday night to monday morning?

« Last Edit: July 01, 2012, 06:38:15 am by hans » Logged
Nug Offline
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« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2012, 06:36:27 am »

hans pm !
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hans Offline
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« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2012, 06:38:41 am »

ffs i meant pool
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