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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2013, 04:53:37 pm »

GoT are pretty good books, dont know what your problems with it are.

The writing in general is poor, and he uses rape, incest and the killing of several main characters to add the illusion of depth to what is at best a sordid redoing of the War of the Roses. His fantays elements do not mix in the slightest with his attempts at political intrigue. A prime example of this would be Daenerys' storyline past the first book - directly attempts to mix both fantasy and politics, and coincidentally becomes one of the worst and most boring segments of the book. The disjoint in the narrative between Westeros proper and the happenings North of the Wall is felt keenly, with it wrenching the reader into an entirely different kind of narrative.

That said, from what I've seen of it the TV series manages to make it engaging and interesting.
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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2013, 05:12:34 pm »

Well given that I live in NYC and spend at the very least 5 hours a week on the subway, I have plenty of time to read, I've had quite a few people tell me they really enjoyed GoT so I'll just have to see for myself.
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2013, 05:33:04 pm »

I'm on the third GoT book and I think they're great.

Anyhow, about them wizards in lotr/hobbit. From what I understand about lotr mythology every time a wizard uses his powers he grows weaker and if that is true then it is baffling that anyone would waste it on retarded shit like resurrecting hedgehogs.
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2013, 05:47:37 pm »

Wizards don't really lose power by using magic. It's probably tiring to do it, and they're limited in their powers while on the continent of Middle-Earth, but I don't think they actually grow weaker doing magic stuff. Case in point - massive lulz increase in Gandalf's power after he fought Balrog.
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2013, 06:46:51 pm »

Wizards don't really lose power by using magic. It's probably tiring to do it, and they're limited in their powers while on the continent of Middle-Earth, but I don't think they actually grow weaker doing magic stuff. Case in point - massive lulz increase in Gandalf's power after he fought Balrog.

Seeing as how there the direct agents of the Valar, it wouldn't make sense for them to lose their power.
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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2013, 07:05:34 pm »

They don't lose power at all, being essentially angelic beings. They're not really supposed to use it though - their purpose is just to rally the remaining forces of good to the problem of Sauron throughout the Third Age, at the end of which they would return to the Undying Lands.
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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2013, 07:53:45 pm »

 Garbage ...
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2013, 07:56:18 pm »

Garbage ...

Coming from a illiterate backedup bathroom dweller im sure it was.
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« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2013, 05:30:45 am »

They don't lose power at all, being essentially angelic beings. They're not really supposed to use it though - their purpose is just to rally the remaining forces of good to the problem of Sauron throughout the Third Age, at the end of which they would return to the Undying Lands.

Can you give a short explanation why? Everything would be so much simpler for them if they could just throw spells all the time.
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« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2013, 09:25:44 am »

The Song of Ice and Fire books are fantastic Riki, highly recommended.

Top notch fantasy although one problem is that they get each get better than the one before up until the third book (Storm of Swords) where they peak.

I found it goes, in best to least entertaining: Storm of Swords, Clash of Kings, Game of Thrones, A Dance for Dragons, A Feast For Crows

Enjoy your reading Riki, I think you'll really enjoy the series.
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« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2013, 09:51:29 am »

As an avid book reader, something tells me the Song of Ice and Fire books can't possibly be as good as people claim since I have so many non frequent reader friends who absolutely love it Smiley. Either it's typical pop-lit trash or it truly is a good work of accessible literature. I suppose I'll have to find out myself.
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« Reply #31 on: January 15, 2013, 10:05:45 am »

As an avid book reader, something tells me the Song of Ice and Fire books can't possibly be as good as people claim since I have so many non frequent reader friends who absolutely love it Smiley. Either it's typical pop-lit trash or it truly is a good work of accessible literature. I suppose I'll have to find out myself.

It won't be winning any Nobel prices, but it's accessible without being trashy like the Dan brown novels.
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« Reply #32 on: January 15, 2013, 11:44:23 am »

Can you give a short explanation why? Everything would be so much simpler for them if they could just throw spells all the time.

The idea is kind of the same as the one behind God. They could do all the stuff, but they chose not to as the races of middle earth sort of need to sort their own shit out without help. They are also limited in their powers while on the continent of Middle-Earth.
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« Reply #33 on: January 15, 2013, 11:46:02 am »

Never will understand why people think books need to be something more special than a movie to be worth reading. If it's for entertainment it's only job is to entertain.

I thought they were decent, but will wait for the rest to come out before I pick it up again.
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