Mysthalin
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« Reply #120 on: May 08, 2013, 04:57:49 am » |
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There's a difference between fully upgraded doc inf coy and "I bought 4 RR squads and that's nearly half my inf pool gone".
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #121 on: May 08, 2013, 05:54:02 am » |
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There's a difference between fully upgraded doc inf coy and "I bought 4 RR squads and that's nearly half my inf pool gone".
Indeed. Poor mandos suffer the same fate |
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nikomas
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« Reply #122 on: May 08, 2013, 05:55:21 am » |
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There is also a difference between "Half" and "A Third", this is without counting the reserve pool. This shouldn't really be a problem unless you're trying to build a company made entirely out of RR's and BAR's.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #123 on: May 08, 2013, 06:12:54 am » |
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You'll be spending your reserve on simply getting rid of your fuel - it is irrelevant.
32/84 pool is between 1/2 and 1/3. I.e. Nearly a half, or more than a third - whichever the case, that leaves you only 52 pool - I.E. 13 vanilla AB squads to use together with that. Take away one squad for each BAR/RR you decide to buy.
In short - pool limitations are f*cking retarded on infantry and need to go.
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nikomas
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« Reply #124 on: May 08, 2013, 07:00:59 am » |
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Just because you're running blitz/ab/inf/falls, doesn't mean you should spam ONLY storms/rangers/ab/falls, or is this what you're saying?
If you decide to do so, you still can, you'll just have to pay for it in a lack of reserve pool for tanks generally.
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« Reply #125 on: May 08, 2013, 08:49:19 am » |
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It makes sense for AB RRs to have a relatively high pool value but AB riflemen are just riflemen with paradrop.
1 Riflemen with BAR is 3 pool
1 AB Riflemen with BAR is 8 pool
That's insane, they already cost more manpower and munitions.
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #126 on: May 08, 2013, 08:58:01 am » |
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Yeah they aren't that high in my pool draft. So thats an oversight. We'll get on that.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #127 on: May 09, 2013, 05:40:30 am » |
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Just because you're running blitz/ab/inf/falls, doesn't mean you should spam ONLY storms/rangers/ab/falls, or is this what you're saying?
Because running a company with just grenade airborne and a handful of RRs seems so game-breakingly OP, right? There is also a massive difference between running an AB company that buffs literally just AB (with only 3 buffs being truly combat buffs, the other ones being more utility than anything else) and crocodiles, and then comparing it to Infantry who happen to have not just ranger buffs, but also equivalent riflemen buffs and meaningful support weapon buffs. I'd see your point about limiting the amount of airborne if the doctrine choices were significantly more powerful on the airborne than comparable buffs in other doctrines. Unfortunately, they aren't. They're basically the same, except given to a much more limited number of units due to poorly thought out pool limitations. |
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| NightRain
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« Reply #128 on: May 09, 2013, 06:39:14 am » |
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The only things I'd understand pool limits would be support weapons and vehicles. Infantry is just plain handful and has always been cheap in World War 2.
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« Reply #129 on: May 09, 2013, 09:19:30 am » |
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I support pool limits..
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AmPM
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« Reply #130 on: May 09, 2013, 09:34:47 am » |
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The only things I'd understand pool limits would be support weapons and vehicles. Infantry is just plain handful and has always been cheap in World War 2.
No, Infantry are a coveted resource that is to be preserved. That is why they get all the support from every other unit. Ideally, you would balance through cost, and that would solve it. |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #131 on: May 09, 2013, 05:55:43 pm » |
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I support pool limits..
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Ultimate argument against pool limits has been made. I assume the abomination shall be rectified shortly? |
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« Reply #132 on: May 09, 2013, 07:40:36 pm » |
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I certainly hope so.
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1. New tactics? it's like JAWS, first one in the water dies
RCA-land where shells fall like raindrops and the Captain is an invincible god
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« Reply #133 on: May 09, 2013, 07:47:34 pm » |
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Ultimate argument against pool limits has been made.
I assume the abomination shall be rectified shortly?
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TheWindCriesMary
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« Reply #134 on: May 09, 2013, 07:53:25 pm » |
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Should completely remove pool limits from the game tbh
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« Reply #135 on: May 09, 2013, 08:06:11 pm » |
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But wind everybody cheats with pool limits right..
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« Reply #136 on: May 09, 2013, 08:34:40 pm » |
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No pool restrictions was one of the most appealing aspects of original EIR to me!
Complete freedom over your company. I also really miss the website based company builder where you could access it from work even and think about some good builds.
I don't think it's really unbalanced, every kind of "spam" has a weakness to it in the end. Oh well, can't get everything you want
Perhaps a compromise can be made: Allow us to build a company with no pool restrictions, but in turn add an option in launcher that allows hosts to host a "no pool" game, so people with companies that went over the pool limit can only join those. Maybe we can then see which ones are more popular and remove pool sooner or later, or just keep it implemented that way.
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XIIcorps
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« Reply #137 on: May 09, 2013, 09:03:35 pm » |
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Tbh the pool is a nice aspect and guide for. Builds but is too strict on certain companies and there themes ie airborne and mandos.
Themed Companies should be possible maybe by removing the vanilla inf when you chose to unlock ab rifles and mandos
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| CrazyWR
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« Reply #138 on: May 09, 2013, 09:42:49 pm » |
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pool restrictions limit creativity, and thus, fun. People should be able to build whatever company they want that is fun for them...
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AmPM
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« Reply #139 on: May 09, 2013, 09:57:03 pm » |
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pool restrictions limit creativity, and thus, fun. People should be able to build whatever company they want that is fun for them...
Either go no restrictions, or historic restrictions. |
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