0.7.9.Z.9 Patch Notes

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[chefarzt]

no

[mrshark]

The pershing having an accuracy buff really isn't a big deal at all in any way, shape, or form. Maybe there might be DOCTRINE related issues as far as specific types of shots or whatever, but vanilla wise it's a good change. I'm more upset about the t57 in general and the fact that the tiger 2 is pretty much 100% useless.

[AmPM]

Tiger II has been useless for over a year.

[chefarzt]

Tiger 2 doesnt brake for nobody.

[AmPM]

There's no such thing as a balance team?

There is no such thing as balance

[aeroblade56]

pretty funny, we can see the reason why i left this mod and why i still claim that the balance team has no clue:
pershing needs to kill 4 man
tiger needs to kill 6
BUT
same accuracy

yes, but the Rifles have less health and is the only Mainline infantry for the Tiger.

the pershing for the most part fights grens.

[XIIcorps]

yes, but the Rifles have less health and is the only Mainline infantry for the Tiger.

the pershing for the most part fights grens.

invisible grens with super duper alpha dmg.
Or quad shreck clown cars.


Mk6 will still be shit, how does an extra 200base hp make it any better then it was with ablative

[Uglysori]

I just want to clear up some personal confusion about the matching Pershing accuracy buff.  I definitely don't read RGDs as well as a lot of folks on here but the overall argument for a while now is that Tiger is considered mediocre and how we want to fix that.  Hicks has gone ahead addressed this in several ways.  Increases repair kit healing capabilities so that Tigers are able to maintain field presence seems like a good idea.  The 2nd is to buff accuracy against inf - bringing overall accuracy at standing to 63-64% at long range (40) and 85% at shorter ranges. Ok.

Now I will throw out the premise that there are a number of tank guns considered pretty good AI main tank guns.  We have a P4 75mm, the Sherman 75mm (76mm not quite as good), Cromwell 75mm.  All are very similar to each other vs inf.  Similar splash, similar damage, similar moving accuracy penalties, similar accuracy at long range (Crom has the worst accuracy at 48-49% but can buffed by a CCT for greater range, RoF).  RoF in ascending order Sherman --> P4 --> Cromwell.    

So what makes these guns different than the old Tiger 88 and Pershing 90mm against inf?  If anything it should be argued Tiger and Pershing guns are better right? Same .75 long range accuracy, same 0.75 accuracy vs inf armor types, same 40 range.  Better damage and splash.  Slower RoF than the P4 and Cromwell but the same as the Sherman.  (Edit - I was incorrect Tiger 88 and Pershing 90 have significantly worse moving accuracy)

Therefore the issues probably stem from the Tiger platform itself?  Slow speed, poor turret rotation, poor acceleration, large fuel muni mp cost.  We can see how effective the Tiger becomes with better speed, turret rotation, acceleration with the Tiger Ace.  However, baseline Tiger can't kite handheld AT as effectively as a P4, Sherman, Cromwell, Pershing because of its low speed. It looks like the accuracy vs inf was buffed since it's difficult to hit infantry at ranges shorter than long range because infantry can more effectively run away or the Tiger has to expose itself longer than other tanks to take shorter range shots.      

Why did Pershing's accuracy need to also be mirrored buffed when it already has the close to medium tank stats in terms of speed, turret rotation and acceleration that make Shermans, Cromwells, P4 effective AI platforms?


 

[aeroblade56]

mk6 still shite.

[XIIcorps]

mk6 still shite.

its exactly the same as it was pre patch with 700hp + 200 ablative hp.
now its just 900 base hp of shit

[GORKHALI]

Good patch , to see improvement  on the tiger and the persing , maybe can u guy make a commander unlock give tiger extra rangen like cromwell cc does for ally  tanks , tiger has defenetly improved hits most of the target  but it is outranged  and outgunnned by most ally  tanks . And pershing gimps inf. Better Then tiger .persing gimps whole  squad  or 1 squadron survive out of 4 or 5 squad  and  tiger was killing only 1 or 2 inf  per shots .. Kind unfair. I asked before if tiger range  can be increased coz of iets drawbacks where persing take full plantage of.

[XIIcorps]

Good patch , to see improvement  on the tiger and the persing , maybe can u guy make a commander unlock give tiger extra rangen like cromwell cc does for ally  tanks , tiger has defenetly improved hits most of the target  but it is outranged  and outgunnned by most ally  tanks . And pershing gimps inf. Better Then tiger .persing gimps whole  squad  or 1 squadron survive out of 4 or 5 squad  and  tiger was killing only 1 or 2 inf  per shots .. Kind unfair. I asked before if tiger range  can be increased coz of iets drawbacks where persing take full plantage of.

Do you even Blitz tiger ? Watch as it hoons past your enemies atg's and then procedes to gimp them.

[GORKHALI]

Do you even Blitz tiger ? Watch as it hoons past your atg's and then procedes to gimp them.

tiger needs dual  repair to make through whole game so i canont  use blitz ability , i do go past atgunst and gimps them takes  2 shots atleast  ,,only if  is alone  otherwise is a sucide  mission .

[nikomas]

Do you even Blitz tiger ? Watch as it hoons past your enemies atg's and then procedes to gimp them.

Do you even axis?

[XIIcorps]

Do you even axis?

You'd be pleasantly surprised

[I2ay]

I feel like Ugly hit the nail on the head.

[Shabtajus]

Do you even axis?

lol good question here

XIIcorps ya brit BS boy all I can say QQ non stop about brits being shit and so on. No offense man but having companies in launcher does not make ya axis player since ya barely using them. Just saying.


Anyway I would like to see improved 95mm croms, was using them lately. Very bad unit tbh. Cant hit targets and if ya go for manual control of every shot dat aim time is just retardedly long. Do the 95crom, stuh and Sherman HE has the same gun stats?

[XIIcorps]

lol good question here

XIIcorps ya brit BS boy all I can say QQ non stop about brits being shit and so on. No offense man but having companies in launcher does not make ya axis player since ya barely using them. Just saying.


Anyway I would like to see improved 95mm croms, was using them lately. Very bad unit tbh. Cant hit targets and if ya go for manual control of every shot dat aim time is just retardedly long. Do the 95crom, stuh and Sherman HE has the same gun stats?

Do I even care bro?

[TheIcelandicManiac]

Do I even care bro?

I would go with yes.

[Shabtajus]

Give it Flank Speed

Lolz

and what ya gonna do with it? flank and do what? shit cant hit so dat flank speed aint even needed