omgNiko
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« on: May 30, 2014, 10:03:33 am » |
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are hotchiss light vehicles or tanks? as tanks do they get the 20% speed buff for tanks in the Mechanized Support tier 4 for TH?
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GrayWolf
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2014, 10:08:10 am » |
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are hotchiss light vehicles or tanks? as tanks do they get the 20% speed buff for tanks in the Mechanized Support tier 4 for TH?
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2014, 10:08:49 am » |
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Since they are called "Hotchkiss Light Tank" it's only logical they're tanks and get the buff. I don't see why it wouldn't
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nikomas
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2014, 10:09:56 am » |
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Since they are called "Hotchkiss Light Tank" it's only logical they're tanks and get the buff. I don't see why it wouldn't
Should we apply tank class buffs to chaffes and the +200HP ablative buff to stuarts? It's a light tank after all. |
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2014, 10:13:00 am » |
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You shoud reword that: Should we apply tank buffs to tanks? No nikomas we shouldn't because that totally doesn't make sense to give tanks tank buffs
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nikomas
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2014, 10:14:49 am » |
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Then there are people who seriously entertain the idea classing units by name alone without regard for balance implications or the fact that light tanks have been classed as light vehicles in the context of CoH and EiRR since forever.
Sometimes I wonder about people.
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2014, 10:16:26 am » |
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Then that's a problem with the doctrine abilities, you can't blame that on the name/type of a unit, never go full retard.
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nikomas
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2014, 10:17:51 am » |
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Then that's a problem with the doctrine abilities, you can't blame that on the name/type of a unit, never go full retard.
It's not a problem unless someone is pretending they think hotches and stuarts are supposed to be tanks. While someone might make that mistake you sure as hell should not. |
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tank130
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2014, 10:18:24 am » |
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You girls want to get a private room or something?
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| omgNiko
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2014, 10:19:47 am » |
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so the question is now: are hotchkiss coded as light vehicles or tanks with respect to recieving either the light vehicle buffs of mid tier 3 Zimmerit, or the tank speed buff of bottom tier 4 Mechanized Support?
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2014, 10:20:28 am » |
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They are not supposed to be tanks, these 2 vehicles are tanks whether you like it or not. If you feel certain doctrine abilities make them too powerful then exclude them in the description, but oh wait those never get updated anyway
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| omgNiko
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2014, 10:22:23 am » |
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precisely if they are coded to recieve the tank or light vehicle buff?
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2014, 10:23:00 am » |
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Judging from nikomas reasoning they don't get the buff
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| omgNiko
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2014, 10:24:45 am » |
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can someone who knows for sure please respond, which buff do you mean specifically?
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| EliteGren
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2014, 10:28:52 am » |
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..the buff you asked about in the OP
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nikomas
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2014, 10:29:32 am » |
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They are not supposed to be tanks, these 2 vehicles are tanks whether you like it or not. If you feel certain doctrine abilities make them too powerful then exclude them in the description, but oh wait those never get updated anyway
They're armed like light vehicles, armored like light vehicles, priced like light vehicles and play like light vehicles... Obviously, they're tanks. You know as well as I do that using real life arguments for CoH serves zero value, in CoH they're LV's, that simple. Omgniko, they're classed as LV's and they should recieve any general LV buffs. |
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| omgNiko
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2014, 10:31:31 am » |
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ok i understand, so to finally confirm: they get the mid tier 3 -25% damage from handheld AT and -10% damage from tanks as light vehicles?
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2014, 10:31:55 am » |
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They do, and we're done here.
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nikomas
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2014, 10:36:11 am » |
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They get elite crits and -10% recived penetration as per description, they do not get reduced damage from HHAT, don't ask me, I didn't code it. So it's a tank then, but the Stuart Light Tank is an LV, go figure.
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tank130
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2014, 11:28:58 am » |
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...... don't ask me, I didn't code it. ..............
But you are in charge of coding now, so if there is an error shouldn't you be fixing it? Unless of course you are waiting for the previous coder to come back and fix it......lol |
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