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[AlphaTIG]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HQnOfQfJD3ErVUDlR_qzMOqH_XGNwVN42rwcLUULsGU/edit?usp=sharing

i'd propose a slight buff to the stuh reload. maybe 5.5-6 sec.

[AlphaTIG]

added 95 mm cromwell (which is generally considerd a shit unit).

[tank130]

I used to use StuH a lot and consider myself pretty good with them. About the only thing I have ever been good at in this game tbh.

The StuH has always been pretty good in my opinion. They have to be used with something to spot with to get good value though.
Their ability to shoot over destroyed buildings is invaluable.

[AlphaTIG]

I used to use StuH a lot and consider myself pretty good with them. About the only thing I have ever been good at in this game tbh.

The StuH has always been pretty good in my opinion. They have to be used with something to spot with to get good value though.
Their ability to shoot over destroyed buildings is invaluable.

gmc and stummel do that job (shooting over destroyed houses) better, at a lower price and pop..

[Tachibana]

GMC and Stummel are in 2 different factions. I suggest you compare the role of the Stuh to other wehr units.

[Tachibana]

Just played a game. Tbh, StuH's are fine. They get wrecked by ATG's and TD's. Armour is good enough to not really care about HHAT. The cannon is fucking greats, especially with attack ground. For 185 fuel, you are basically getting a Skirted Stug with a Tiger Gun + Stug mg.

Thats my opinion at least. Basically, I agree with tank.

[AlphaTIG]

Just played a game. Tbh, StuH's are fine. They get wrecked by ATG's and TD's. Armour is good enough to not really care about HHAT. The cannon is fucking greats, especially with attack ground. For 185 fuel, you are basically getting a Skirted Stug with a Tiger Gun + Stug mg.

Thats my opinion at least. Basically, I agree with tank.

how many kills do you get on your average stuh?

[Tachibana]

In the matches I've played, no less than 9,  no more than 42.

[GrayWolf]

Stuh is doing well, but it seems like it's not worthy the price/pop simply because GMC and Stupa are doing far better job than it is. Prove me if I'm wrong but I guess these 2 have better DPS and projectile speed, that makes them better units.

If these 2 stay as they are, I'd like to see stuh having more range or durability. Imo 45 range is all cool, but 60 range for GMC is just far too ridiculous and that makes stuh look more like crap for such a high price.

[TheVolskinator]

They might shoot faster, but the StuH will pimp-smack anything it hits, usually resulting in squad wipes or leaving one guy in critically low health.

[Tachibana]

The GMC is not a wehrmacht unit. The sturmpanzer is not in the mod at the moment. To compare the Stuh to the gmc and ask for a buff in range is similar to comparing m10 to a panther and asking to buff the m10s range.

You must compare the role of the stuh in a wehrmacht company to other wehrmacht units. Not the panzer elite stummel. Not the US GMC . Not to units that are not in the game.

[AlphaTIG]

They might shoot faster, but the StuH will pimp-smack anything it hits, usually resulting in squad wipes or leaving one guy in critically low health.

uhm yes, but gmc/stummel fire twice as much and "pimpsmack" 2-3 bodys /shot, while the stuh doesnt hit shit when not used w/ attack ground.

You must compare the role of the stuh in a wehrmacht company to other wehrmacht units. Not the panzer elite stummel. Not the US GMC . Not to units that are not in the game.

only when u build a company. if you are asking balance questions, ask yourself: what would you rather have, a stuh or a stummel?

and ultimately you can compare every single anti inf unit with eachother because all of them need a reason to be, something that makes them different, not necessarily more effective, but a trait that makes the player want to use the unit.