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Author Topic: All Support Squad FTW (shows current OP of Support weapons)  (Read 7810 times)
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Draygon Offline
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« on: January 11, 2008, 09:38:29 pm »

This is a 2v2 on Road to Carentan, myself Steinmarder vs Bonte and Slslookout.  The game ends because Bonte loses connection and drops, but if you watch up to that point you will see how I field nothing but HMGs and Mortar teams (a few snipers) and it is easy to hold the line.  I played allies btw.

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fldash Offline
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 09:40:19 pm »

You had teammates.  One tank would have run you over.  Does not show their op'ness.  Shows the players had no counter.
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Sls_lookout Offline
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2008, 09:41:28 pm »

thats why support weapons have now been op. Pop cap should be 4 at minimum. Plus higher costs (maybe) but definetly decrease the actaully heavy weapons health.
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Sls_lookout Offline
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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2008, 09:42:27 pm »

fl every time we used tanks the RR's came out of no where. Granted that we could have definetly played better. Heavy weapons are still OP.
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Draygon Offline
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« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2008, 09:43:07 pm »

They had a few armor coming at me, yes I had a teammate with 2 squads of Paratroopers showing the Fireup ability as well.

At no point did we have more than 4 squads other than heavy support, and even if they came at us with a tank the recoiless would have taken them out and the AT gun.

At the start I had 8 squads out, 5 HMGs and 3 mortars.
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« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2008, 09:43:49 pm »

Wow, you mean you had combined arms and they couldn't break through?  Amazing!
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Akranadas Offline
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2008, 09:44:52 pm »

Were there Nebels/Stukas?
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fldash Offline
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« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2008, 09:45:23 pm »

Obviously not.
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Sls_lookout Offline
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2008, 09:45:31 pm »

yes a vet 2 nebel but a airborne recoiles fire up put it out of the game.
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Draygon Offline
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2008, 09:45:46 pm »

Yes, actually I am a strong supporter of combined arms however, if you are forced to go with a full company of heavy weapons you cant always rely on your teammates to fill in the gaps.

They did have one nebel...it did next to nothing, recoiless took it out.
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2008, 09:47:24 pm »

I plan on watching the replay, but I expect to see nothing unusual. Wink

Draygon... You are not FORCED to do so...  Had they had protected their artillery, and had more of it... they could have drove you out and then attempted to attack... They also could have used snipers or ST to see areas of weak resistance.
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Draygon Offline
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« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2008, 09:48:28 pm »

They tried snipers...didnt work.  Watch the replay you will see they tried just about everything short of a armor blitz which they couldnt do because of the pop cap.
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Bonte Offline
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2008, 09:52:52 pm »

i lost my vet 2 fully upgraded...stuh..it pissed me off...i lost countless pumas and my light tank..everythime we tried brining a tank up they ran recoiless in...and the popcap started ticking very fast so it became hard to use snipers and storms

Also fldash i was using 2 snipers and multiple storms..did u even watcht he full replay
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fldash Offline
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« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2008, 09:54:23 pm »

No, I haven't watched the replay yet.
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Bonte Offline
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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2008, 09:58:06 pm »

i suggest u watch it...without my repair bunks we wouldnt of lasted at all...
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DasNoob Offline
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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2008, 10:03:41 pm »

THe only thing this replay shows is very poor tank micro and a total lack of combined forces on the axis side.  Next time try pushing your Stuh with some support infantry and you would be able to break them in a second.
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2008, 10:04:06 pm »

Thanks for saving my time DasNoob.  Wink
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Bonte Offline
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2008, 10:06:31 pm »

dasnoob if u watched the replay you would have seen us trying that only to have all of our infantry suppresed and then fire up RRs forcing a retreat....
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DasNoob Offline
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2008, 10:12:10 pm »

I DID watch the whole replay.  What i saw was you repeatedly pushing alone with your Stuh42, making contact with a heavy weapon, and your support infantry was so far behind you that the recoilless pushed you away before they could come to your aid.

Now... had you setup some hmm LMGs at the edge of their fog or perhaps set your storms there waiting for them, once you took out the HMG and their recoilless came in you would have owned them. (or they may have just ran with fireup).  Either way you could have pushed your lines forward.

Also, as i have been told, recoilless airborne are very expensive so once you retreat them or kill them you could know that you have cost a big chunk of one player's MP/MU.
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Schicksal
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2008, 10:13:42 pm »

i still got loads of troops in the backhand, and they tried the cloaked stormy stuff too, thing is i could just ignore em to get the job done
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