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scrapking2
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Posts: 140
Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #40 on:
March 13, 2008, 01:14:42 am »
Quote from: DasNoob on March 13, 2008, 12:54:43 am
Actually it was. I will concede the mortars... but we killed all but the very last m10/sherman and that was only because it was GG at that point.
Airborne X3 was 90% the reason.
I understand that you would want to defend your company doctrine choice.
But even you must admit that when there are 3 airborne players that don't have to run to the front line, in the new MCP style game play it really makes it easy for you.
Hell even slowzo said that he didn't realize that you were all Airborne or else he would have played his infantry company lol! I will await the devs balancing.
Every additional Airborne player on a team is just a huge force multiplier. I honestly don't think an individual Airborne company is OP per se, but when combined its just fucking horrid.
However, you do have to consider this possibility when balancing it out I think, and that Airborne can drop as often as they can reinforce I personally see as the problem. Although certainly a case can be made about the number of Airborne available as well. Having played AB, and against them as my Terror company, its not the numbers of them which makes me feel good as AB, or worries me as Terror. Its the ability to jump anywhere, cap territory, and jump again *thus bypassing the trek from spawn that every other player has to make*. The time saved, the flexibility, and with more than one airborne between that, and being ablt to instantly reinforce anywhere, or double up on a weak spot - instantly - . That is OP.
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ADOLFPWNZOR1000
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #41 on:
March 13, 2008, 01:33:14 am »
Well I couldn't beat 3 airborne players so I joined them. My new airborne company:
48 airborne
1 crock+dozer
2 M10
6 RR
5 Satchel
29 nades
lol it felt OP just buying it but.... meh! Fireup here I come!
EDIT: forgot about my supply drops too o.0
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GammaCommander
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #42 on:
March 13, 2008, 01:51:15 am »
Quote from: ADOLFPWNZOR1000 on March 13, 2008, 01:33:14 am
Well I couldn't beat 3 airborne players so I joined them. My new airborne company:
48 airborne
1 crock+dozer
6 RR
5 Satchel
29 nades
lol it felt OP just buying it but.... meh! Fireup here I come!
You don't have a single AT Gun, 75/76 Sherman, or M10. A skirted tank will be hell for your company. The Satchels are a waste really. There's no point in having them. They can't kill anything, and it takes 2 to take out a Bunker/Flak 88/etc. Buy less Airborne, some more tanks, and some ATGs.
Though I do have to agree, Airborne are a bit unbalanced with Airborne Brothers. But then again, it's a T4 and the Axis can do the same with their manpower reduction doctrine. Though they will lack the mobility of Airborne.
It's the the combination of Airborne doctrines that magnifies each other's effectiveness. By themselves, they're not that glamorous, but when you start combining a few, it can become a nightmare for the Axis players.
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ADOLFPWNZOR1000
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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March 13, 2008, 01:59:50 am »
Na i'll stick with what I have but thanks theta! When rangers were all the rage AmPm and I ran ranger only companies and they were fine. Although the rr's will indeed have some problems with skirts I will rely on my fellow airborne to help. As soon as I get 3 more CP i'll probably pick up some airborne 57s. As for satchels, since I only play axis... I just wanted to have something that went BOOM for once.
OOPs I also forgot my 2 M10... i'll go edit that post.
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Akranadas
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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March 13, 2008, 02:27:05 am »
It doesn't matter how many units you have; it matters how you use them.
That T4 (22CP) is pretty cheap in the CP side of things considering TR is 28CPs
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scrapking2
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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March 13, 2008, 02:32:38 am »
Quote from: Akranadas on March 13, 2008, 02:27:05 am
It doesn't matter how many units you have; it matters how you use them.
The T4 is pretty cheap in the CP side of things considering TR is 28CPs
Ak -
Airborne are a different animal then when you played them. No availability & MCP being the 2 key changes which make how they play much different.
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Akranadas
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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March 13, 2008, 02:33:43 am »
Yeah I know; I agree that they are OP in the price area... but you have to look at it in two ways. How much RBs do those players spend into Manpower?
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Warlord511
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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March 13, 2008, 08:15:20 am »
I went Elite Airborne and I have 21 squads of Airborne. I cant see how people think they are Op'd. Ya we can drop any where and have good anti tank, but if we are faced with a large infantry force with even a small armourd car we have to pull back.
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Thtb-Ally
The German Guy on the Ally side?
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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March 13, 2008, 08:26:58 am »
I always lol when 3x grens with 6 schrecks run into airborn to fight them and then yell "OMFG OP"
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #49 on:
March 13, 2008, 08:35:47 am »
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I went Elite Airborne and I have 21 squads of Airborne. I cant see how people think they are Op'd. Ya we can drop any where and have good anti tank, but if we are faced with a large infantry force with even a small armourd car we have to pull back.
Disagree, 170 Mun RRs & 45 mun grenades (or even 50% off with a doctrine ability) take care of all those problems.
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Thtb-Ally
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #50 on:
March 13, 2008, 08:40:31 am »
Axis can do the same.
MPVolks are cheaper for example and can stay up to them.
Same for nade´s.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #51 on:
March 13, 2008, 08:42:49 am »
Volks don't stand up to Airbourne, are you on drugs?
Axis grenades are also inferior to nuclear pineapples and come only on grenadiers
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Thtb-Ally
The German Guy on the Ally side?
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #52 on:
March 13, 2008, 08:46:11 am »
^MP - Volks did a few times. I saw it.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #53 on:
March 13, 2008, 08:46:51 am »
Doesn't mean anything.
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Draygon
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Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #54 on:
March 13, 2008, 10:09:33 am »
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48 airborne
1 crock+dozer
2 M10
6 RR
5 Satchel
29 nades
See this is what pisses me off, people think that just because you go AB you have to get ALL AB units, thats just bad for strategy and not really viable. Its you g uys that get ONLY AB that are going to fuck those of us that actually use a combined company to play, not just AB only.
For instance my AB company I have 17 AB (only 6 RR), 10 rifles(4 Bars), 1 Croc, 1 Sherman, 2 M10s a ATG and support weapons. I can fight a battle with just about anyone and hold my ground, if you go AB only you cant.
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Thtb-Ally
The German Guy on the Ally side?
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Posts: 1812
Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #55 on:
March 13, 2008, 10:13:09 am »
Is not like the axis woud ever chance there playstyle of spamming motar´s & officer´s a tiny little bit.
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Days of War
Official Axis Propoganda Minister
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Posts: 1164
Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #56 on:
March 13, 2008, 10:27:11 am »
Really? I use 49 airborne with 5 m10s, 4 RR, 1 AB ATG. All the AB have nades. But really, with my T4 being Aerial Brothers, why wouldn't I? It makes AB less than rifles, why would I purchase rifles?
It is effective indeed. But only if used right. If you don't know how to use it, you will fail.
Besides, I'm careful with my AB now that they are mostly vet 2.
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Draygon
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Posts: 1636
Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #57 on:
March 13, 2008, 10:32:08 am »
Yea but Days thats whats going to get AB a nerf, just spamming them. If there wasnt people doing this then there wouldnt be a problem.
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Days of War
Official Axis Propoganda Minister
EIR Veteran
Posts: 1164
Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #58 on:
March 13, 2008, 10:34:32 am »
Well from what I can see, that's the point of Aerial Brothers. Why else would there be a T4 that drop their price 30%?
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Thtb-Ally
The German Guy on the Ally side?
EIR Veteran
Posts: 1812
Re: Push Forward!!!
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Reply #59 on:
March 13, 2008, 10:36:13 am »
Êxpensiv rifleman make ab spawm look so much better.
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