"Offensive" words

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[Demonic Spoon]

Alright, I created this thread so as not to derail this thread.

You people need to lighten up. Languages evolve, and words can have multiple definitions. Some get all over me because I use the term "rape" to describe utter domination. For example, my ostwind raped the AB trying to drop on top of it 

If you can't deal with this then, well, it's not my problem. While it can be annoying if a word is used repeatedly endlessly, you can then just ask me to tone it down slightly. However, I am not going to cut my vocabulary because you are offended that my choice of words has some vague reference to sexual assault while you play a game where virtual people get killed, maimed, and otherwise disfigured.

[Thtb]

Yes I also noticed that not evryone has a "thick skin", but both sides have to adapt.
I greatly reduced the amount of jokes that are hard, but funny imo and the others life what sickers throw my profanity filter.

[[AB]RikiRude]

The person you were playing against was female? Because that's the only way a guy can be offended by the word, unless he's close with someone that was. PC people need to stay off their PCs. So retarded.

[CommanderNewbie]

Generally it's easier for those who offend to ease up.

The person you were playing against was female? Because that's the only way a guy can be offended by the word, unless he's close with someone that was. PC people need to stay off their PCs. So retarded.

That's not the only way, but you have no idea how true it can be.

[Flack]

People who get offended by a word like "rape"(in the context mentioned) needs to grow a pair of bigger balls.

[CommanderNewbie]

People who get offended by a word like "rape"(in the context mentioned) needs to grow a pair of bigger balls.

Or you could respect their wishes.

[AmPM]

Or they can mute you, or not get on the interweb. Its like going out in public and complaining that you hear offensive language. You do not have a right to be unoffended. Get over it.

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

Especially since almost all of the people who use that higher teir of cursing (sexual references intended to degrade, or racial slurs) are young.  Generally too young to be even playing this game, 16 or 17.      The audience for this mod is one that is more mature than your standard internet forum, please act accordingly.

are you saying that 16 and 17 are too young to play this game?!

[Demonic Spoon]

Or you could respect their wishes.

Why? Rather than having the world conform to what they believe is proper language, how about they learn to deal with it?

[stumpster]

Or you could respect their wishes.

Why? Rather than having the world conform to what they believe is proper language, how about they learn to deal with it?

Because in the case of racist language you can easily take offense to that.

Tell you what, go into Harlem and shout the n-word.  I'd love to see you tell anyone offended to 'deal with it'.

[[AB]RikiRude]

The way I see it, if you are playing a game where people get KILLED, ran over by tanks, blown up by explosions, then you really don't need to take offense to anything, unless the person is directing things to you, oh YOU suck, I raped you, you are a n00b. Then of course you should be offended, and in that manner it's not the words they use, it's HOW they are using them. It doesn't matter if they say They raped you, or if they kicked your ass, or if they say you fucking suck, or are bad, it's still conveying the same idea.

But in general I would hope people playing EiR would be mature enough to handle certain phrases and words, but at the same time if someone is saying "I raped your stupid nigger units" I have the right to be pissed. BUT, I would not be pissed that he used the words nigger or rape, I would just be mad that he's rubbing loses in my face.

[AmPM]

Again, your rights extend only so far as you are willing to do something about it. If for instance, nobody was willing to do anything in Harlem if you shouted the N word, then they wouldn't have anything to say or do about it. However, in all likelyhood, you will be beaten to death and never found. They have protected themselves from your harsh language in a very final way.

[Wraith547]

I find it incredible how people have such difficulty showing the smallest amount of courtesy towards others.

I know its such a burden to show any respect towards others, but it would go a long way. The only reason people are such dicks on the internet is because there is a complete lack of consequence.

Its pretty much a given they would get their ass kicked if it was a face to face conversation.

As AMPM said, just learn to use the mute function. If people are intentionally being disrespectful its unlikely they had anything useful to say anywho.

[GamerAndyAlly]

The way I see it, if you are playing a game where people get KILLED, ran over by tanks, blown up by explosions, then you really don't need to take offense to anything, unless the person is directing things to you, oh YOU suck, I raped you, you are a n00b. Then of course you should be offended, and in that manner it's not the words they use, it's HOW they are using them. It doesn't matter if they say They raped you, or if they kicked your ass, or if they say you fucking suck, or are bad, it's still conveying the same idea.

But in general I would hope people playing EiR would be mature enough to handle certain phrases and words, but at the same time if someone is saying "I raped your stupid nigger units" I have the right to be pissed. BUT, I would not be pissed that he used the words nigger or rape, I would just be mad that he's rubbing loses in my face.

Riki,
I've never played with or against Spoon, I'm not a woman, I don't know anyone who was raped.   Language is important, and words have meaning - I'm aware this is the internet and the veil of anonimity can be very intoxicating to players who would not use that type of language if people could see their faces.

All that aside, I listen to quite a bit of racial and sexual profanity, and I don't say anything - the only reason I brought this up is because of the frequency that Spoon uses that type of language. 

[DasNoob]

rape, I couldn't care less tbh.  Just delight in the knowledge that people with under-developed vocabularies are either immature, or under-educated.  I like using the term rape in instances like...


CommanderNewbie I'm giong to rape your armor company. (and then I do).

[DBSights]

screw you I do what I want 

[They Call Me SpitFire]

I think all language on the internet needs to be ignored, except racist(some sexist) stuff that's all the bothers me, I'm white and the n-word makes me want to be the crap out of the dude who said it, even if its in a rap song, but online if you don't like it ask for them to stop,kindly, or just ignore it. Thats all you can do,(oh and muting)

[Nevyen]

Well seeing that I know someone who suffered at the consequence of such a word, it sticks in my mind but then my position of context is different from Spoons.   Such is life ill take the option and igonre and mute in that case.  

But as a final final comment on this subject,

As I pointed out its not about "growing" balls though which in a specific context could mean grow up which could suggest develop a level of maturity which then should suggest realising why such a word might be contentious.

But such is life.  People want to use language as they see fit and the english language is the most abused language out there so go for it.  Its ashame though that some people seem to forget the history of the words they use, what these words do suggest and then use the veil of a "game" about war to cover thier actions.   Yes the game is about violence but in what context does that allow you then to lower yourself to that level?  

You have a choice to be civilsied and respectful and I do not remember thq or relic stating that this game is designed to prmote abusive langauge or allow its game to be an excuse.  

What would your girlfriend, wife, parents think to hear you use these words?    

To then further suggest that those who take an offence to such words are weak willed, childish or somthing else, while hiding behind a computer screen screaming "i raped you fucker"  should walk out into thier Mall or street, pull somone over and say the same thing to them and see what the reponse is.  

It also interest me that people will go don't be racist but in the same line throw out a sexist remark, that strikes me as odd and a double standard. Somehow to use a racial slur of another race is abhorrent in any context but to use a sexist slur about woman in any context is wrong, whats the reasoning that one is ok and the other is not? Strikes me as very biased double standards but anyway.   

Yes the internet does allow the veil of anominity to provide those who don't follow social norms to do as they feel with no consequence, hence the explosion of violent Mpegs showing beheadings, rape, torture, dead bodies and the like.

Again take the word out of context its just a word as is NAZI,  place it in context of the modern world and the word develops a further meaning relating to actions and events that effect a society a nation even a world.

Your choice your decision choose wisely, but don't be surprised by those who will ask you to refrain from such words ( and the key here is my objection to the word rape).  

Regards Nevyen.    

[Lionel-Richie]

I'm not really sure you can compare saying "You got raped" after winning a video game to yelling it into some random stranger's face.

Also, pretty much any word can be considered contentious or strike a sensitive memory, What can you do?

Granted, I'm always against any kind of racial slurs.

[They Call Me SpitFire]

Words are words they mean nothing, only the actions of which uses to counter these "words" means something. So you can do what you please and argue all day, but it will mean nothing unless you put those words into action.