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Author Topic: Axis vs Allied Faction Differences  (Read 5099 times)
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[AB]RikiRude Offline
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« on: March 30, 2008, 04:33:31 pm »

In my beginners guide I'm writing the differences between axis and allies. So far this is what I have.

"Allied squads are bigger, composed of 6 man squads, meaning they take longer to snipe, and can garrison more support weapons. Allies also have better veterancy, but it takes longer to gain it.

Axis squads are smaller with 5 man volks squads, and 4 man gren/sotrm squads, and 3 man KCH squads, making them prone to sniping (although KCH have a modifier that makes them harder to snipe. Axis have better support weapons, their mortars have longer range, their mg42s put out more damage and suppress better, they even have longer range. Their AT guns also have cloaking, which allows them 3 shots which you won't be able to detect easily. Also axis have the only non-doctrine artillery, which is the nebel."

Everything certainly seems better for the axis!

I need to think of more things that make allies "better" , because I still need to add axis has better tanks.
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2008, 04:41:42 pm »

Allied infantry have the BAR their are the airbourne and the ranger don't forget the Pershing
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asmithally Offline
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2008, 04:42:29 pm »

cheaper units, better vet, better doctrine abilities.
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DerangedGerman Offline
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2008, 04:43:04 pm »

Airborne. Rangers. Pershing. BAR. 57mm. RRs. And the sniper.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2008, 04:48:37 pm »

Allies have access to many useful and versatile weapons. The BAR rifle can put out respectable damage, or if you want, use the Suppression ability to suppress all enemy squads near its target. The Allied HMG is also good, dealing higher damage than the MG42 but not suppressing as quickly. It may also take the Armor Piercing Rounds upgrade, allowing it to kill Armored Cars and Halftracks. This trend continues into their Anti-Tank gun, for medium and light tanks it can fire standard rounds, for dealing with heavy tanks you can use Armor Piercing rounds, punching a hole clean through any tank.

As an Allied player you also have access to the nuclear pineapple (allied hand grenade) which is great for clearing out elite axis infantry.
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CommanderNewbie Offline
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2008, 04:52:15 pm »

The Sherman is a superior multi-purpose tank.
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2008, 04:54:22 pm »

With the 76mm its superior to the p4 in every way....
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2008, 11:43:17 pm »

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jackmccrack Offline
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2008, 11:55:23 pm »

With the 76mm its superior to the p4 in every way....

I've seen some P4's put up good fights against upgunned Shermans. Hell I've even seen Stugs put up good fights against upgunned Shermans.

The 76mm has better AT over its 75mm counterpart, but the armor of the P4 is still a thing to contend with. And though the Sherman has 636hp compared to the P4's 600, I'd say its armor is rather weak a la paper maché.
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Avalanche Offline
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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2008, 11:57:19 pm »

stug only existed to fight sherman head on, it has no other purpose and function other than die
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2008, 11:59:50 pm »

Actually, the p4 and Sherman are so close its a matter of penetration, which the sherman does better.
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Steinmarder Offline
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2008, 12:13:25 am »

its a thread about a beginners guide, try to stay on topic plz

riki, the axis dont have better tanks they have different tanks. The sherman is a powerfull all around tank. It can snipe shreck squads, kills a pIV with upgun, and together with an AT gun you can even take out a panther quickly if you get the tank behind it.

the m10 is the fastest vehicle in the game, faster than a puma.. it also can just mow down infantry and kicks ass against axis armor. (not used alone though but what works alone in EiR except a giant horde of vet3 rangers and no artillery around  Wink )

the croc is also a powerfull unit, which only has to fear massed AT, because of its close range, and other tanks. the croc can clear out whole defensive positions by breaking in and flaming everything in seconds

the m8 can lay mines for a reasonable price now and as armored player can capture territory.
upraded its also a quite powerfull all around unit.

And of course the allied players have STICKIES, putting a constant fear of allied rifleman on axis armor
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GammaCommander Offline
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2008, 12:28:28 am »

I never fear Sticky Bombs when using my Stug/Stuhs. They can go ahead and plant a few Sticky Bombs on the Stug, I'll just run over a few squads in the process. It's the AT Guns that always put the fear into my Stugs/Stuhs, especially the Tank Reaper variant.
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TheDrunkenSmurf Offline
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 05:22:39 am »

indeed

stugs are not bad..yeah i prefer now having 3 of them for 1 panther....

but its realy game over for them when your opponent has RR or AT guns

maybe that need a little bit tweaking
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 07:18:05 am »

Allied armour is actually fairly solid, its just the combination of Paks and lack of a decent repair option that makes them seem so weak.

Also, since this is a beginners guide, if you are going to use advice from players then you should qualify what AmPm said about suppression ability. Since a patch a while back it only suppresses 1 squad at a time not everything in an area. A good player ofc can switch the squad it is targettting and suppress multiple times but as this is for beginners I thought i better point out it only suppresses 1 squad.
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