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Author Topic: KCH or Stormtroopers?  (Read 3923 times)
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Cyber-Couch Offline
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« on: April 06, 2008, 07:29:54 pm »

Which packs more punch, KCH or Stormtroopers with mp44? Also, how much better are Stormtroopers than Grenadiers? Is there a unit stat sheet I can look up to see all the facts somewhere? Thanks.
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2008, 07:31:18 pm »

Stormies are grens with slightly more health and the ability to cloak. MP44 stormies are less powerful per man than KCH. I prefer LMG grens over either.
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XNiichts Offline
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2008, 07:33:27 pm »

In comparison to grens ... I would only use stormtroopers  to sneak Shrecks around to an important target.
Otherwise much prefer LMG, and i'm pretty sure Gren Shreks are cheaper.
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Apex Offline
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2008, 07:35:19 pm »

Properly used, storms are the most lethal of all. Gotta make a stormtrooper guide sometime.
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2008, 07:37:06 pm »

Except now that the MP44 price went up, and the Weapon Surplus buff went down.
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Cyber-Couch Offline
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« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2008, 07:44:23 pm »

Is it even worth it to get mp44 on stormtroopers or I guess I am better off with LMG on grens?
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Demonic Spoon Offline
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« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2008, 08:05:50 pm »

You could try using different units for different purposes rather than try to find the "Best" unit to spam.
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2008, 08:06:28 pm »

For general combat Grens with LMGs are better, for scouting stormies cost less than a sniper.
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[AB]RikiRude Offline
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« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2008, 08:17:41 pm »

www.coh-stats.com

grenadiers vs storms, storms have 15 more health per man, meaning they have 60 more health.

KCH vs storms, storms have more health, but KCH have heroic armor.
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Dbozbrown Offline
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2008, 08:50:20 pm »

Storms get surpressed very easily.  They should not forfill the same role that grens do in the Axis army.  Some players are brilliant at using storms as their core inf, but I have seen way more just treat them like grens and those players ussually dont do too great in battles.

KCH are stronger assult troops than storms, no questions asked imo.
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Lt_Apollo Offline
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2008, 09:09:39 pm »

who ever uses storms like greniders is an idoit. there eliet solders not infentry men.

Storm troopers where orignaly used to storm trenches, and thus are givin exelent close ranges wepons and the ability to cloke.

storm troopers are eather made for ambush, or head on assualt (if you have MP44 and supression decresser).

when i attack i love to cloke my storms and move em very close to the enemy, then i uncloke and charge em, befor they have time to react there dead, and becous im so close my assualt rifles never miss.
this even works agenst HMG as once you get close enof you can reach the mog befor your supressed, realy efective.

Duble shrek storms are the deadlyist AT infentry in game. you can easly flank the enemy and corner em, or pop out and destro an AT gun, or to destroy key unit such as Howies or capilopies.


You must have great micro to fully apreciat the storm trooper. it is a unit that i dont recemend newer players using as it cost alot and most newer players tend to use it like a Gren squad.

KCH on the other hand is only for assualt, if you want Anti infentry this is your unit. it is cheeper than the Storm trooper in most regards but has less usfull abilitys. i would sugest though in an assualt to use a storm/KCH combo.
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Avalanche Offline
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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2008, 03:42:03 am »

with weapon surplus, get storms; without, get kch
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Thtb Offline
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« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2008, 08:55:29 am »

Stormys for AT, KCH for AI, but here is my opinion;

KCH cost more than stormy in evrything (100 ammo :O)

Imagine you buy stormys for that money, you have the best inf based at (1 schreck is 100 ammo)+cloak
and still save some Manpower.

Or you have more than decent anti inf with a side weapon of your choice (Inspread assault = pwned, less than 100 ammo,;  Bundle nades = pwntastic!, less than 100 ammo) or cheap mp44 with weapon supplus.

I woud defently go for stormys - again.
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