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DasNoob Offline
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« on: April 09, 2008, 12:19:50 pm »

I know I know, I'm letting you all down.  But I sit in a launcher, or I join games with my friends, and I just raise the average too much to get a game these days. Cry  No one wants to play against my team.  It is too "scary."

So effective immediately I will be purposefully destroying my %88 Win/Loss ratio so that I can play the mod once again.


In all seriousness,  ANTS needs more work.  Right now there are players who are better then myself who hover around the %60 range and are able to get games all day long.  All ANTS is currently doing is punishing the really really bad or the really really good.  And even then, I will be able to simply lower my Win/Loss and start getting games again... but does my ability go down?  Nope!

Think of this as Smurfing for the 2000's. 
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DISASTER AVERTED... IM A MOTHER FUCKING GENIUS!

You have DasNoob who uses the mod as COHTV
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2008, 12:21:28 pm »

I have a 50% win rate... Tongue
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DasNoob Offline
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2008, 12:23:37 pm »

What would our children look like?  around a %69? 
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2008, 12:24:25 pm »

Don't purposefully destroy it, play with a newb with like 20% win/loss. Then you can get all the games you want.
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Sach Wins! Cheesy

Would people please stop killing my AVREs. Not cool.
Prydefalcn Offline
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2008, 12:26:58 pm »

I have a 50% win rate... Tongue

ditto.


Das, wait longer for better opponents if you want to play with your high win % friends.
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Ucross Offline
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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2008, 12:27:35 pm »

I call BS dasnoob.

I've seen multiple games started with one player with a w% of 30% or less.    Join him and your combined will be 55%.  You should have no problem getting in a game then.

^^ what Sach said.

P.S.  It's painful that this has to be pointed out.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2008, 12:28:22 pm »

he wants to play with his high w/l ratio friends too...
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2008, 12:30:23 pm »

I want my daddy to tell me he loves me but we can't all get what we want.
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fldash Offline
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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2008, 12:31:28 pm »

He can if he plays good opponents.
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Ucross Offline
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2008, 12:32:10 pm »

Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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Forefall Offline
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2008, 12:39:43 pm »

I think it will just take time for people like DasN00B to finally realize that the interest here is fair games, and you either need to organize a high level match before hand if you want to play with a fellow high leveled partner.  The ANTS system means you have to make FAIR matches.  If you want to make a really good team, you need to find a really good opponent.  THIS is what takes so long.  That and the fact that you can see win percentages right now which is pretty dumb but should be fixed soon.  Smiley
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Lionel-Richie
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2008, 12:39:53 pm »

Like everyone's been saying, it's not like they're avoiding individuals (most of the time, but also because we can't see who we're playing as easily now).

It's when they see a 2v2 where the % is vs 76% or so...of COURSE the 30-50% people don't want to join that, it usually means there are two very good people in there.
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DasNoob Offline
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2008, 12:43:03 pm »

Actually most of my "high" win loss friends aren't high at all.  Most are in the 60-70 range.  I wouldn't call that high, but upper mid?

See the thing is, When you look at my account and see when I am most active 9-1am west coast, and then you match it up with the usual suspects that are on at this time you will find that the pickings are slim.

But more to the point I guess the devs want a system that punishes people for NOT playing with total noobs.  Yes I admit I play with people I know, but what kind of communism are we pushing when the answer you have for me is to run off and play with that guy who is a %14(%50)?  As devs you have to love all of your children.  As a common player I don't. 

And just so we are PERFECTLY clear.  When looking at my last 5 battles,  I was playing against these players.  (hardly noobs)

Akranadas
Duvka
PztKrieger

Salan
"account removed"  would be stumpster

Strathound
Supergirl                BUT when I played against these 3 I was teamed with newer people
"account removed"

Crono
"account removed"

SwissKnight
SilverMobius


I would hardly call them noobs  Roll Eyes
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Thtb Offline
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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2008, 12:44:56 pm »

DasNoob is a fine player, not a stacker imo :O

He plays .. very very carefull ...
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fldash Offline
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2008, 12:47:06 pm »

DasNoob, as Forefall said, the display shouldn't be showing the win percentages of the team you are against, this is a flaw.  All the system should show is whether the game is considered fair.

I personally prefer to never join Vent until the game has already been finalized and we are ready to start.
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DasNoob Offline
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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2008, 12:48:26 pm »

Good I idea, I look forward to that, and I will start doing so myself.  I will let you know if that helps.
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Prydefalcn Offline
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2008, 12:48:58 pm »

If you were able to play those games, then they were more likely fair than not.  Working as intended  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2008, 12:49:13 pm »

What people are forgetting here is that the win % display is a bad thing for both ends, no one will want to play against a high % team or even one or two high % players and no one will want to play with one or multiple very low % players.
And I can assure you, there's been a lot of low % players recently, this doesn't mean they're bad players, they might've just been unlucky for all we know... yet they get viewed as bad players.

The ANTS win % display fails as instead of bringing the community together, it suggests discrimination of both the high % and win % players when in fact win % means very little. We really need to step down from win % display ASAP.
In addition, we don't have the playerbase to start splitting up the good and the bad players, yet this is exactly what's been happening.

Edit: Eh too late.
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