anthony210
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« Reply #100 on: April 19, 2008, 04:57:25 pm » |
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Can i play still???
I would like to play as Yugoslavia
... If your serious I can list you as an alternate but you wouldnt be able to play Yugoslavia. |
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| CatinHat
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« Reply #101 on: April 19, 2008, 04:59:22 pm » |
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ok i would like to be an alternate then
to bad about Yugoslavia i had hopes of making a fishing fleet bigger then any in europe haha
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| Lurtz231
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« Reply #102 on: April 19, 2008, 05:01:23 pm » |
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Are you sure? I swore Airborne had about 1-2 points above Infantry against soft targets.
I just checked here and it does confirm that they are indeed weaker (those numbers are from DD 1.2 though, but I doubt any changes have occured since then). In any case, I'd always equip my paras with an arty brigade for the extra firepower. |
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Thtb
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« Reply #103 on: April 19, 2008, 05:12:51 pm » |
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Okay you can replace me with the next player in the list. I bail out.
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« Reply #104 on: April 19, 2008, 05:17:40 pm » |
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Thtb no you don't play the game it will be fun
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« Reply #105 on: April 19, 2008, 05:24:45 pm » |
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Okay you can replace me with the next player in the list. I bail out.
No need to bail, unless you really dont want to play. Most of us are new to the game and we dont know much. |
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| anthony210
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« Reply #106 on: April 19, 2008, 06:41:52 pm » |
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Ok im heading out for a bit, ill be on later tonight and before the game starts tomorrow to help anyone make sure they game is set up to join. If you need any help just PM me or catch me on vent. Also check out this forum post to set up your router. http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187623 |
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TheDeadlyShoe
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« Reply #107 on: April 19, 2008, 07:09:48 pm » |
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The hardest to grasp part of HoI land combat (IMO) is the importance of movement. Your units lose Organization while moving, and the indirect effects of that make it very difficult for a slower enemy (ie infantry) to defeat a faster one (ie armor) - especially in areas where movement is difficult, such as mountainous regions or regions with large provinces like Siberia. This is also why the Supply for Offensive feature is important, as it boosts movement rates. It's also why Artillery and Antitank can be a faustian bargain, as the non-self-propelled version slows you down.
Just as an example - Say you attack a province defended by Armored units with a superior force of well equipped infantry. After a couple of days of fighting, you drive your opponent out of the sector. Your units lost a lot of organization doing it though, and you're slow enough that it takes you a day or two to reach the sector, losing organization all the while. Meanwhile, the retreating Armor units have reorganized significantly and counterattack perhaps before you even reach the province. Your weary and disorganized units are completely stomped by the refreshed armor units and you are back where you started.
There are ways around that (usually by using the Support Attack and Support Defence orders), but it demonstrates the importance of leading an attack with fast units and backfilling/supporting with slower, heavier units.
I had significant problems with that when fighting the Russians as Japan until my SPG and Armor production really got cranking.
The other Extremely Important Point I would make is to look at the year on research topics. You receive really significant penalties for researching technologies that haven't met their year requirement yet. There's lots of cases where you want to get ahead of the curve on research, but if you don't stay mostly within the curve your ability to diversify on tech will suffer. A lot.
now if only you lazy lot would get doomsday
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| CommanderHolt
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« Reply #108 on: April 19, 2008, 07:28:37 pm » |
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I have both HoI2 and DD, but I can't play during that time period.
(Tip: As France you can realistically extend the Magionel(sp) Line all the way to the sea by the Historical 1939 WWII start date if you start in 1936(ie. the Defenses are lvl 10 Land Forts). So then Germany is pretty much doomed since it can't break though France.
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TheDeadlyShoe
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« Reply #109 on: April 19, 2008, 07:29:27 pm » |
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Bah! Counterattack when they hit Poland and seize the german industry!  |
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| Stranger500
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« Reply #110 on: April 19, 2008, 09:22:11 pm » |
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Well I need someone else to take my place in the tournament. My father singed me up for a stupid lesson and didn't tell me about it and it is at twelve.
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| anthony210
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« Reply #111 on: April 19, 2008, 09:36:24 pm » |
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Alright, well I put CommanderNewbie in your spot for Italy then. If THTB still wants to drop ill move newbie to Japan and GamerAndy to Italy since Japan was newbies first choice.
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| Saint
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« Reply #112 on: April 19, 2008, 09:42:32 pm » |
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commandernewbie as japan argh!! hmmm italy just became a factor in my plans. cant wait for the game |
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| GammaCommander
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« Reply #113 on: April 19, 2008, 10:03:17 pm » |
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Don't just get Doomsdays, get Armageddon as well. AI will actually do a D-Day in the correct spot.
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| GamerAndyAlly
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« Reply #114 on: April 19, 2008, 10:28:53 pm » |
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So,
According to the manual, the max players in a multiplayer game is 10....
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« Reply #115 on: April 19, 2008, 10:30:14 pm » |
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Well we can see tomorrow, if its 10 and we got people waiting we can add people in. Someone told me it was 8 players max.
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« Reply #116 on: April 19, 2008, 10:46:59 pm » |
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also i think you can have more then one person play the same country. you just work it out with the other person who does what.
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| Stuart750
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« Reply #117 on: April 19, 2008, 10:54:55 pm » |
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Okay you can replace me with the next player in the list. I bail out.
No need to bail, unless you really dont want to play. Most of us are new to the game and we dont know much. I, sir, am also new. I got a crash course from my friend yesterday. Hopefully the fact the the Soviet Union is a enormous country will help me survive. I know the basic structure of the game. Also: Ok im heading out for a bit, ill be on later tonight and before the game starts tomorrow to help anyone make sure they game is set up to join. If you need any help just PM me or catch me on vent. Also check out this forum post to set up your router. http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=187623I already could connect to you anthony, so I think I'm good to go. |
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« Reply #118 on: April 19, 2008, 11:02:30 pm » |
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I, sir, am also new. I got a crash course from my friend yesterday. Hopefully the fact the the Soviet Union is a enormous country will help me survive. I know the basic structure of the game.
Hahahaha. If you're put against a good Germany and if the US and Japan decide not to go to war, then all I have to say is "good luck" to you. |
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« Reply #119 on: April 19, 2008, 11:15:18 pm » |
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There's also the issue of lag. If we have a full roster of eight players, we're probably going to have lag.
We are starting a war. Not a battle, but a full-scale war. I must stress how important it is that we line things up so that the war goes smoothly. Make sure you plan your computer time ahead of time too (family computer, roommates, etc).
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