What unit/ability do you anticipate most with 2.0?

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[stumpster]

But the Treadbreaker will most likely have a much longer range then a sticky bomb.

You realize you're comparing a cannon to some yokel's throwing arm.

Just saying that Treadbreaker is much better then sticky bombs since they can be used at a much longer distance. (although most likely limited to 1 use instead of the stickys 4 in order to compenate.)

Yeah, this is true, but you also gotta remember what units these things come on.  Rifles with Stickies are still worthwhile, and can fight effectively, even after using a Sticky.  ATHT's on the other hand can do very little OTHER than Treadbreaker or Focused Fire.

[Dukka]

But the Treadbreaker will most likely have a much longer range then a sticky bomb.

You realize you're comparing a cannon to some yokel's throwing arm.

Just saying that Treadbreaker is much better then sticky bombs since they can be used at a much longer distance. (although most likely limited to 1 use instead of the stickys 4 in order to compenate.)

Yeah, this is true, but you also gotta remember what units these things come on.  Rifles with Stickies are still worthwhile, and can fight effectively, even after using a Sticky.  ATHT's on the other hand can do very little OTHER than Treadbreaker or Focused Fire.

I dunno, I think depending on the ATHT's cost and Treadbreaker's cost/conditions, it might be a very cost effective way to rush out, knock the mobility off a fresh tank, then either fall back or full retreat.

[[AB]RikiRude]

I'm sure ATHT will still be useful for picking off infantry.

[demoner]

the treadbreaker shot does no damage. On board mechanics or engineers will fix that up good.

Treadbreaker is ment to be used so then the ATHT can shoot at tanks outside their range. However, the ATHT is useless against anything big and takes forever to even kill a greyhound. I don't think youll see many people sinking points into it.

[Duvka]

the treadbreaker shot does no damage. On board mechanics or engineers will fix that up good.

Treadbreaker is ment to be used so then the ATHT can shoot at tanks outside their range. However, the ATHT is useless against anything big and takes forever to even kill a greyhound. I don't think youll see many people sinking points into it.

I always use ATHT in vCoH 1v1. They work really well with the Tank hunter doctrine.

[GammaCommander]

the treadbreaker shot does no damage. On board mechanics or engineers will fix that up good.

Treadbreaker is ment to be used so then the ATHT can shoot at tanks outside their range. However, the ATHT is useless against anything big and takes forever to even kill a greyhound. I don't think youll see many people sinking points into it.

You mean besides the fact that it is basically a long range sticky bomb? I don't see anyone complaining about sticky bomb being worthless on tanks because Pioneers/Repair Bunkers can fix it.

Really, if you do not see the advantage of the AT HT, you must be blind to gameplay mechanics.

[DerangedGerman]

Yeah. Even IF the AT guns sucks. You could spam them to produce workable results! Everybody wins!

[demoner]

nono

I'm talking about people saying you would just run in, tread break, and already make up for your cost. You're still gonna have to kill the tank or its easily repairable.

[Days of War]

nono

I'm talking about people saying you would just run in, tread break, and already make up for your cost. You're still gonna have to kill the tank or its easily repairable.

Well, if you break the treads and run off leaving it alone, you deserve for it to get repaired.

[Haroquen]

It's not like you can exactly treadbreak a tank and d00m it forever. An armor heavy player should have engineers somewhere nearby to fix it. If he doesnt, he deserves to have it scuttled or stranded for the rest of the game.

[GammaCommander]

It's not like you can exactly treadbreak a tank and d00m it forever. An armor heavy player should have engineers somewhere nearby to fix it. If he doesnt, he deserves to have it scuttled or stranded for the rest of the game.

Once again, you capitalize on this opportunity. Immobilize his tank if possible, and then proceed to push with the rest of your infantry. It's a support, don't expect it to do something on its own.

It's a long range Sticky Bomb, what else more would you want?

[DerangedGerman]

It as an ability, not as the entire purpose of a unit.

[Thtb]

I anticipate my attempts to get booby traps in.

[UnLimiTeD]

Everyone accepts AP Rounds are a useful ability, yet still there are people complaining the HMG is too weak.
Which I don't agree on anymore.
I guess for the ATHT, the axis upgradepolicy would work well, get treadbreaker shot as a cheap upgrade on vet 1.
This unit might be weak Antitank, but its got high range, high accuracy, and high speed.
And it can take on infantry, atleast no-vet.
The ultimate kiteunit.
Already.
Without Abilities.
Still, I'm trying Brits, PE is too HTfocused.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

There's a gigantic difference between treadbreaker and sticky bomb, namely that sticky bomb only does engine destroy / immobilize if the tank goes below 40-50% health.    Tread breaker gets engine destroy / immobilize against tanks at any health level.  And its far harder to defend against tread breaker.

[Libertine]

There's a gigantic difference between treadbreaker and sticky bomb, namely that sticky bomb only does engine destroy / immobilize if the tank goes below 40-50% health.    Tread breaker gets engine destroy / immobilize against tanks at any health level.  And its far harder to defend against tread breaker.

true. however ... the AT Halftrack is a lot more likely to die vs. a Sherman or M10 then say Riflesquad vs. Stug or PzIV(without MG42)

[Ucross]

Also, the broken treads on a tank can be repaired in 5s, whereas a sticky bomb which does damage, will require 5min sometimes to try to remove engine damage.

[Niichts]

Focus Fire on AT-HT is also...spectacular.

[GammaCommander]

Also, the broken treads on a tank can be repaired in 5s, whereas a sticky bomb which does damage, will require 5min sometimes to try to remove engine damage.

That's a downside, though the AT HT would still be pretty friggin awesome. Just keep shooting the tank while they try to repair it. Regardless, a properly used AT HT with support units will make mincemeat of most vehicles. I'd love to just say "gg" to one of CommanderNewbie's rushing Crocs.

[UnLimiTeD]

How will they do against regular AT Guns?
low hitpoints, and as far as I know no strong incomming accuracy modifier.
1 APshell  for exsample. Thats an ability, too.