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BrotherGlacius
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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Reply #60 on:
May 27, 2008, 09:54:14 am »
***** I know I'm fairly new to the mod, but come on people, its a game. It is hard to get a game sometimes, hard enough without all this personal preference thrown in. If people actually try in the game, and stick with it, thats all I want. If they want to run a gimmick army, who cares. We each have three companies available, build one to go up against those types of armies. Its a game. For all of its persistence, it resets. Nothing is permanent. So just play and have fun. I amazes me that now that ANTS is gone, the community is still going to find a way to stop games from being played.
***** Brother G.
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Schultz
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 10:06:42 am »
Dragon - Actually no, cause you only say 'Everyone from the 3v3 go to battle 4" AFTER everyone ready up and then there were hardly any examples when someone said no im not playing, im not coming.
Cause when youre in seconds before having a game its pointless to leave and screw the rest.
Octide - this was how ants worked most times.
Allies came in, found their friends made a game and then axis joined.
Or it would be like 3 games full of axis the allies could have picked one.
Even then, if they were afraid they would play against a stack team, they could start their own game.
In the end fighting stacked or not didnt matter, cause at least players TRIED their best and became better.
This system caters carebears, if i can use this word. Everyone is afraid who they play, and want the strongest team on their side or they would walk.
I never said it would be exact automatch (maybe it was the wrong word to use), but it would be a lot better than this.
You can team up with your friend and have a game. At least you would be allowed to do that (without annoying %), and you wont wait for 10 hours to have a game.
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salan
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May 27, 2008, 11:32:36 am »
Quote from: Dragon93 on May 27, 2008, 09:11:39 am
lol, so many people wanted Ants removed, now they want it back. Omg, make up your mind. I managed to get a game up pretty quick without ANTs, no waiting for people with the right percentage.
they should have just left the names unknown till the game starts and said to bad deal with it.
So what you have to play against 'stacked' games, what do you think a true automatch will do anyways, you won't know who you are fighting and in most cases with a small population YOU WILL fight the better matched teams because there won't be anyone else for itto match you with..
the one thing with this mod it always goes to extremes, can never do the middle ground. Ants, or no ants... never no ants with no names ...
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zokie
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 11:58:35 am »
There is nothing wrong with using any of the weapons available , just as in wwii if you don't bring enough anti-armor or whatever you get fragged. There is nothing as abusing an "exploit" if it's there it's there limiting yourself is stupid.
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salan
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May 27, 2008, 12:04:58 pm »
Quote from: zokie on May 27, 2008, 11:58:35 am
There is nothing wrong with using any of the weapons available , just as in wwii if you don't bring enough anti-armor or whatever you get fragged. There is nothing as abusing an "exploit" if it's there it's there limiting yourself is stupid.
the only stupid thing is people who try to reason real war with spamming in a game.
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GamerAndy
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 12:06:04 pm »
Quote from: BrotherGlacius on May 27, 2008, 09:54:14 am
***** I know I'm fairly new to the mod, but come on people, its a game. It is hard to get a game sometimes, hard enough without all this personal preference thrown in. If people actually try in the game, and stick with it, thats all I want. If they want to run a gimmick army, who cares. We each have three companies available, build one to go up against those types of armies. Its a game. For all of its persistence, it resets. Nothing is permanent. So just play and have fun. I amazes me that now that ANTS is gone, the community is still going to find a way to stop games from being played.
***** Brother G.
Out of curiousity, how is someone supposed to know when they're playing someone who decided to use a gimmick company instead of their real one?
Quote from: zokie on May 27, 2008, 11:58:35 am
There is nothing wrong with using any of the weapons available , just as in wwii if you don't bring enough anti-armor or whatever you get fragged. There is nothing as abusing an "exploit" if it's there it's there limiting yourself is stupid.
i agree with salan
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salan
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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Reply #66 on:
May 27, 2008, 12:09:57 pm »
until they have some form of control mechanism in place andy you never know what you are fighting .. even with it you won't know what you are fighting but then you will be atleast assured that the GIMMICKNESS should be restricted or removed.
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 12:16:39 pm »
To clarify, people didn't want the Hidden System removed, they wanted the ANTS system removed, which was the system in place that prevented people completely from playing match x or match Y.
A hidden/win % (& # games) display would work fine without the shitty ANTS part of it
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The players themself will be the judge of wether or not they want to play, not some half-assed system based only on win %s.
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GamerAndy
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 12:22:35 pm »
Quote from: salan on May 27, 2008, 12:09:57 pm
until they have some form of control mechanism in place andy you never know what you are fighting .. even with it you won't know what you are fighting but then you will be atleast assured that the GIMMICKNESS should be restricted or removed.
yup, thats been my conclusion as well - It's why ( he repeated himself again with a chuckle) I choose not to play members of the community who are known to run gimmick companies like (gasp) puddin
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Unkn0wn
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 12:24:30 pm »
Would be dead easy to reactivate availability. But apparantely no solution is better than a non-perfect solution
. Anyway, unfortunately we're beating a dead horse here, we have to wait for dynamic pricing, if that's even going to be in the initial 2.0 release. If not, we should definately demand availability to be returned.
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salan
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Reply #70 on:
May 27, 2008, 12:28:08 pm »
you keep demanding me ex dev guy!
hasn't helped you yet you russian collaberator !
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GamerAndy
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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Reply #71 on:
May 27, 2008, 12:41:29 pm »
What exactly was wrong with availability? I know it became that thing that nobody can talk about, but enlighten those of us who are a little newer?
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Clock
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Posts: 53
Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 12:48:19 pm »
Hey men, since ants is gone, I've noticed that nobody joins leaderboard players' games like Schultzz or HighVelocity. I use to play with Schultzz, and it's frustrating to wait for 3 hours looking at all those allies accounts logged in but not joining. If this is the result of ants gone, well, that's crap. The only players who join us are noobs who dont know what is a leaderboard... Just set up a 2v2, it was a 0v2 as always, and there was another 2v2 full of allies (2v0) when we joined that one, they left and set up another one-.- it's frustrating.
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GamerAndy
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Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 12:53:09 pm »
Quote from: Clock on May 27, 2008, 12:48:19 pm
Hey men, since ants is gone, I've noticed that nobody joins leaderboard players' games like Schultzz or HighVelocity. I use to play with Schultzz, and it's frustrating to wait for 3 hours looking at all those allies accounts logged in but not joining. If this is the result of ants gone, well, that's crap. The only players who join us are noobs who dont know what is a leaderboard... Just set up a 2v2, it was a 0v2 as always, and there was another 2v2 full of allies (2v0) when we join that they left and set up another one-.- it's frustrating.
Thats not neccesarily true.... I've played both of those players three times each so far this war
Lots of us are willing to play the really good players.
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Rocksitter
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Posts: 495
Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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Reply #74 on:
May 27, 2008, 12:54:55 pm »
Why not help the new players get better because we all know no one was born with the know how to play COH...
So if you don't like playing new players help them get better and guess what there not new any more..
But really it boils down to you play who you want its up to the person so you can be upset about it but it still wont change ...
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Parttimekiller
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Posts: 23
Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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Reply #75 on:
May 27, 2008, 12:55:37 pm »
Quote from: GamerAndy on May 27, 2008, 12:53:09 pm
Quote from: Clock on May 27, 2008, 12:48:19 pm
Hey men, since ants is gone, I've noticed that nobody joins leaderboard players' games like Schultzz or HighVelocity. I use to play with Schultzz, and it's frustrating to wait for 3 hours looking at all those allies accounts logged in but not joining. If this is the result of ants gone, well, that's crap. The only players who join us are noobs who dont know what is a leaderboard... Just set up a 2v2, it was a 0v2 as always, and there was another 2v2 full of allies (2v0) when we join that they left and set up another one-.- it's frustrating.
Thats not neccesarily true.... I've played both of those players three times each so far this war
Lots of us are willing to play the really good players.
that does not include you right ?
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GamerAndy
EIR Veteran
Posts: 477
Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 12:57:31 pm »
Quote from: Parttimekiller on May 27, 2008, 12:55:37 pm
Quote from: GamerAndy on May 27, 2008, 12:53:09 pm
Quote from: Clock on May 27, 2008, 12:48:19 pm
Hey men, since ants is gone, I've noticed that nobody joins leaderboard players' games like Schultzz or HighVelocity. I use to play with Schultzz, and it's frustrating to wait for 3 hours looking at all those allies accounts logged in but not joining. If this is the result of ants gone, well, that's crap. The only players who join us are noobs who dont know what is a leaderboard... Just set up a 2v2, it was a 0v2 as always, and there was another 2v2 full of allies (2v0) when we join that they left and set up another one-.- it's frustrating.
Thats not neccesarily true.... I've played both of those players three times each so far this war
Lots of us are willing to play the really good players.
that does not include you right ?
I don't understand your comment? It does include me since I have, as I mentioned, played both of the players mentioned 3 times each so far this war...
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Clock
EIR Veteran
Posts: 53
Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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Reply #77 on:
May 27, 2008, 01:09:45 pm »
Quote from: GamerAndy on May 27, 2008, 12:53:09 pm
Thats not neccesarily true.... I've played both of those players three times each so far this war
I am not referreng to any specific person.
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zokie
EIR Regular
Posts: 13
Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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Reply #78 on:
May 27, 2008, 01:45:53 pm »
You don't like the gimmick armies because you can't handle it. Trust me when I say that puddin is having a blast driving around with all those flammenwerfers or whatever he is using. I've played my share of gimmicks myself ranging from riflespam to nebelspam and I had a great time. If your army can't handle a single unit spam then it guess what, you don't have a balanced army. Don't enforce your own mental rules about "fair game", "balance" and "fun" on the rest of us.
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GamerAndy
EIR Veteran
Posts: 477
Re: Results of ANTS removed...
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May 27, 2008, 01:50:10 pm »
Quote from: zokie on May 27, 2008, 01:45:53 pm
You don't like the gimmick armies because you can't handle it. Trust me when I say that puddin is having a blast driving around with all those flammenwerfers or whatever he is using. I've played my share of gimmicks myself ranging from riflespam to nebelspam and I had a great time. If your army can't handle a single unit spam then it guess what, you don't have a balanced army. Don't enforce your own mental rules about "fair game", "balance" and "fun" on the rest of us.
whatever you say
lol
I might continue talking to you if you had more than 10 posts or I had any idea who you were
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