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BradAnderson Offline
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« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2008, 01:19:16 pm »

Allow me to state.

The United States is the economic and military super power for a variety of reasons, but cheif among them is,

Room. We were allowed to spread out and grow in our formative years. We have an aboslutely massive variation of resources and land within our own country. This allows for many diffrent productions, peoples, ideas and doctrines to be developed. I'm not saying that other countries aren't capable of standalone sucssess, but that America simply has more.

The Cold War and WW's I and II. We didnt get the shit end of the stick during these conflicts. When the wars were over we simply took our ball and went home after smacking a few nations and telling them to sit down and shut up. As for the cold war, Europe ended up a peice of meat between two dogs, as did the rest of the unalligned world. As such, we never saw directly damaging conflict.

Economy. We have had some massive fucking booms in our econ in the past decades. Yes, they are going down now, but the idea is how we got here, not were we are going. As such, we had massive surplusses to spend on...everything.

Finally is identity. I'm not saying we have one that makes us better, but when the idea of America gets on stage with any other idea, it wins by swinging its dick and singing about freedom and the ability to live a dream. I can't think of another country that does that.


As for the current military conflict and why the decision on it is that America either 'Sucks ass' or 'Rocks, just not right now'. It comes from as stated before, doctrine. We base our military on stand up conflicts. The American public likes the big final punch, the kick to the curb, the 'Mission Accomplished'. However, when you go from fighting countries and armies to fighting ideas and civilians you throw that baby out of the window.
In times past, America has been able to use the curb stomping public image by limiting media. But because of mass media we can now see the burning bodies, bloody soldiers and crying women. Since America never had a war on its doorstep before Vietnam, we've pretty much grown into that ideal and refuse to break from it.
So, if we cant win (or make it look like we win) in one sucker punch, we start bitching, and want to go home. Because we cant bring our awesomely big guns to bear on cities and start blowing the shit out of every Johhny without looking like dicks, we are reduced to simply throwing as many men into the area and trying to reform the entire population to our ideas.


Long story short, America is just as awesome as it sounds, but that doesn't make it MORE awesome than anyone else.
getting tired of these USA is best threads.
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Haroquen Offline
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« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2008, 01:24:24 pm »

getting tired of these USA is best threads.


Was there any reason to quote the entire thing unedited right after the post in question?

And the the overwhelming uselessness of this post is just unequivicobal. You don't say anything about the post itself. You might have just read the first line and then gone on to make a bland and useless statement for no reason.
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« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2008, 01:34:45 pm »

The bit about quoting a long post i sorta agree with, the rest, no.

How is his post any more useless than yours?
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wraith547EIR Offline
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« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2008, 01:52:53 pm »

Wow, can we seriously go two weeks without an I hate America thread....

I get it, you all hate the attitudes that Americans have. Guess what, Americans all hate the high and mighty, moral highroad Europeans act like they have.

Some people here are just to fucking xenophobic for me.

Done with thread...

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muha2 Offline
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« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2008, 02:04:07 pm »

muha you seem like the regular typical stupid american by saying such things.

Im not typical, and definitally not american. I dont hate the US, but I do not like people like lompocus or w/e who think thats US is the king, and every one else eats shit. I just defended you, and you insulted me with that stereotype.

My responses were probably incorrect, but I did not state that any nation is above or below any other nation.


Arkandas, please close this thread  Cry
better yet, delete it.
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Thtb Offline
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« Reply #45 on: May 26, 2008, 02:06:25 pm »

"teach monkeys"...

Yeah, closey time
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Thirteen Offline
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« Reply #46 on: May 26, 2008, 02:25:56 pm »

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Finally is identity. I'm not saying we have one that makes us better, but when the idea of America gets on stage with any other idea, it wins by swinging its dick and singing about freedom and the ability to live a dream.
I seriously laughed out loud at this. Not sarcastically either, you have a point.
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #47 on: May 26, 2008, 02:46:51 pm »



The United States is an economic and military super power for a variety of reasons, but cheif among them is,


Its no longer the sole economic super power and militarily speaking its ability to conduct unilateral, successful military engagements has long faded.
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HaroquenX Offline
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« Reply #48 on: May 26, 2008, 02:48:32 pm »



The United States is an economic and military super power for a variety of reasons, but cheif among them is,


Its no longer the sole economic super power and militarily speaking its ability to conduct unilateral, successful military engagements has long faded.

I wasn't meaning to imply it was THE ONE AND ONLY. I suppose it was a mischoice of words.
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Lt_Apollo Offline
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« Reply #49 on: May 26, 2008, 03:19:34 pm »

America is a country, though a world power, its still a country. to say you hate it is like saying you hate your nabors for not being like you and having a bit more influence. if where comparing the US and the EU militaries sure the combined force of the EU would come out top IF they where A United fraction, The EU is Solly A ECENOMIC AGREMENT though it seeks collective statesmanship's it has yet to reach that point. so it is valed to compare a EU country with the US. cus it just another country that is part of a agreement.

it would be almost impossible for a single European country to wage war on the US with out an aggressive response from her Allys "which most of the european countries are" so they collectively could NEVER rally against the US.
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HaroquenX Offline
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« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2008, 04:29:39 pm »

And if worse came to worse, America could just clone the Kaiser or Hitler again so we can take another punch at Germany to make everyone love us.
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« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2008, 06:06:18 pm »

The intent of my posts were not to bash americans, nor was it the intent of others, I'm sure... However the thread starter is the one mainly responsible for getting this ball going by spreading utter bullshit about things he obviously knows very little about and then on top of that throwing some US Superiority all around the thread, oh joy! (Which then triggers the typical european superiority BS.)

He could've just posted this as a funny/twisted little post about crazy chinese discipline but he had to take the bullshit route there.

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it would be almost impossible for a single European country to wage war on the US with out an aggressive response from her Allys "which most of the european countries are" so they collectively could NEVER rally against the US.
Completely missed the point, if any nation within Europe & member of the EU was to be attacked, it is most likely that all other EU nations would come to their aid. Therefor the US could not just wage war with France, Germany or GB, it'd be waging war with the EU as a whole.

The EU is more than just economy. (EU economy which surpasses the american economy btw)
Do your research.
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Akranadas Offline
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« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2008, 06:28:16 pm »

Oi Guys, STFU. We all know that the world is being manipulated by Eldar okay so that they can ensure that the God Emperor survives.
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