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[Thtb]

Witch is not to unlikely. Just not now.

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

what our entire planet will just become one kind of eco-system? or the world government?

[Tym]

well, they also all looked alike also had the same skin color, same hair-do's etc unlike our planet. and that's a friggin movie c'mon...

the world government will happen it's just theq question of how. For a while it'll be a good thing but nothing that we do as humans lasts and it will turn rotten eventually. Give a man too much power and he'll eventually abuse it, can't be helped, it's in our nature.

[Crono]

I envision a world government on the basis that all nations become member states, have a congressional or parlimentary seat and all matters of world interest are discussed there, in peaceful matters.  All member states will still maintain there languages, but there will be a single currency and no more "borders" as we know them.  Travel and commerce will be streamlined.  With this kind of system you will in fact find that culture and understanding flourish instead of become diminished.  As well, conflicts involving resources and beliefs will be just minor problems as there will be joint military forces to provide peace keeping operations.  Rogue states like North Korea, Iran, Syria, Thialand, will be a thing of the past as there will be no opportunity for tyrants to rule, as all member states will have to follow general laws put out by the international community.

[UnLimiTeD]

Apex, when he tells you, tell me!

[|-|Cozmo|-|]

^ like everything ---> good in theory... just like Marxism.

[Bodybag2224-Armor]

Well there is going to be no interstellar wars if we continue to fuck up the earth, but you guys go ahead and work on that world government and your flying ships. I'll sit here on my bike.

[Mikehalo3]

I envision a world government on the basis that all nations become member states, have a congressional or parlimentary seat and all matters of world interest are discussed there, in peaceful matters.  All member states will still maintain there languages, but there will be a single currency and no more "borders" as we know them.  Travel and commerce will be streamlined.  With this kind of system you will in fact find that culture and understanding flourish instead of become diminished.  As well, conflicts involving resources and beliefs will be just minor problems as there will be joint military forces to provide peace keeping operations.  Rogue states like North Korea, Iran, Syria, Thialand, will be a thing of the past as there will be no opportunity for tyrants to rule, as all member states will have to follow general laws put out by the international community.

Looks good on paper, but it will never happen. There are too many people with power, and too few willing to give it up for the greater good of humanity. Put yourself in their shoes. Would you be willing to give up your power? If the anwswer is yes, that is irrelevant, because there are to many people like me

The true answer to the problem is to have the nations of humanity work together for the greater good. An attempt at a one government world would only lead to war.

[Bonte]

the only road to world peace is world domination...

[AmPmAllied]

A world government brought about by peaceful agreements and not highly militarized is the first step to being easy prey for any other species. Earth as a shared seat and diplomatic safety makes sense, fighting throughout the solar system makes sense as well. Competition breeds for success, protecting the weak makes the whole society weaker.

[Akranadas]

Typical American Isolationist

[AmPmAllied]

What about it is isolationist. Expansionism would work too, as long as we always had people to fight.

[Warbirds2]

I love the irony in this thread.

[Akranadas]

What about it is isolationist. Expansionism would work too, as long as we always had people to fight.

You seem to think everything that involves one or more countries coming together and helping each other out is wrong. When in fact it helps the entire organisation as a whole; just because you live under a banner of isolationist doesn't mean everyone should. Working together as a whole does not make you weak, it in fact makes you much stronger than your one part. Why do you think America needed a "Coalition of the Willing"

Also assuming that there is life out there somewhere, the chances of them wanting to destroy us are probably nil. They probably have been doing the same thing we have (searching for life), the universe is a massive place, and life might not be so abundant as we presume from the movie's.

[Bonte]

yes but the fact of the matter still stands...the problem with democracy is that everyone is treated equal...dont get me wrong but the problem is we have no competition so people with diseases or who are naturally ill spread their defective genes and traits to the masses...with an ordinary natural selection our spieces would get stronger. For example, because people with aids are treated and not revealed to the public who they are to prevent public outcasts they are able to spread their deasease to the rest of the world...And the fact still stands...there is really no such thing as peace, that is peace between people with different ideals and cultures...differences breed arguments, which eventually breed war. The only way to true peace is either a mixed culture and ideals or a single culture and ideal that is brought to the world through brute force.

[Akranadas]

I think your confusing democracy and communism.

I also find it quite offensive that you dislike the notion of people spreading their 'defective' genes and traits to the 'masses'. It is everyone humans right to have a family and pass on their genes to their children, regardless of what is wrong with them (obviously you seem to forget that your President Lincoln had Marfan syndrome).

Peace through Aggression is not Peace at all, we've seen it countless times in the past that it doesn't work. Only warmongers seem to think the road to a peace world will come at the end of a gun. The Europeans are the best example of what like minded and otherwise completely different people can do when they see the need to secure peace in their region, the individuals may not agree on everything to the detail, but when it comes to the peace of the region I bet they all agree. 

[DBSights2]

It is true that we have stopped evolving genetically because we no longer have the pressures of selection on us.  Since the majority reproduce, the majority of genes are transfered to the next generation and the species as a whole sees little change.  We are still evolving culturally.

However, mixed cultures don't work.  I think that Americans had it right when they wanted everyone who lives in America to be American first and foremost.  In Canada, we are fucking this up.  You look at some people wanting to use Sharia Law to police the Muslim community and you can see what is wrong here.  Valuing other cultures just creates a divided country filled with dissent.  Hard to get things done.  Multiculturalism is a failure.  Look at Holland or any Western, multicultural society and see that it also a country with internal divisions.  Especially Holland.  There the Muslims are moving into neighborhoods en mass, electing their representatives to the government, and using the power to undermine the traditions and laws of the nation to further their own ideals.

And, I ask you, why should we value Muslim culture?
What have they ever done for the world?
What is worth preserving in their culture that is not already in Christianity?

Then you think of all that Western Culture has done for the world (technology, individual freedoms, democracy) and you have to wonder, isn't it right for us to remove the Muslim culture?

[relentless707]

The concept of World Government is a noble one and examples such as the EU are good, but like any ideal in practice it's flawed because of it proposing Democracy the Lisbon Treaty was panned because most of the Irish threw it out the window for varying reasons making Democracy a Beureaucratic nightmare with redtape galore.

We live in a time of Capitalism rather than Democratic ideology, only have to watch the News and even the Media itself is based on Capitalist roots to take the Marxist stance. The fundamental problem most of us make though is trying to fit current events and political regimes into theoretical models and its like trying to fit a square into a circular hole - its totally incorrect.

Personally I'm all for Nietzsche's ideals of Social Darwinism, stop protecting the weak as a soceity is as strong as its weakest link - but thats just my take.

- Schwarzuhr

[BJHancock]

Typical American Isolationist

American isolationists died out over 70 years ago.

I kind of wish America was more non-interventionist and remembered its roots. At least people could stop blaming us for fucking everything up. I doubt non-interventionism will come back into style but if people at least acknowledged we had founding documents it would be a start. None of our politicians even mention formerly important issues like states rights, monetary policy, and individual liberties.

We're more like ancient Rome; getting fat on free bread and being distracted by the gladiators putting on a good show.

[Bonte]

One of the major problems i see about our country is the fact that because our terms only last 4 years most presidents try and accomplish something in their term and dont plan ahead for the future at all. That is the reason we are so in debt. No one seems to plan ahead. Or the current oil crysis. The problem is we need to deal with it now....Plus why are we burning our nations oil and gas to make electricity when we can use nuclear energy...If we switched over to pure nuclear we wouldnt be in the oil panic we are now.

Typical American Isolationist

Were you born in the 30s?

And about the evolutionist part of this thread..sure it may seem cruel now but what happens 3000 years from now when another species claims its dominance over our spieces? It may not seem possible now but just a little change like that changes a lot. With the current way things are going what is going to stop the spread of genetic deasease? Im not saying to kill people. Only sterlize genetically inferior at birth.