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« on: September 21, 2008, 10:51:41 am » |
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Done with EIR until such massive changes stop. Everytime the mod gets stable and in some form of direction, someone comes along and massive changes the way its played just for "balence"
Never tweak the same system, create new systems.
Later.
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Puddin' spamtmi cant really blame smokaz i mean playing against puddin is like trying to fight off breast cancer. You might win and do it and be a bad ass but you'll feel sick and mutilated forever.
Puddin' spamtm is soulcrushing... what's hard to understand about that?
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| BradAnderson
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2008, 10:57:19 am » |
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he's pissed cos he can't use the same strat as pre salan dictatorship ness.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2008, 11:08:29 am » |
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Sniper spam? It's really the only type of spam this system stops tbh.
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| Lolto
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2008, 11:12:51 am » |
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shit I cant spam snipers?  Hey spam backwards is maps. har |
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| BradAnderson
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2008, 11:12:55 am » |
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yea this game lasted 10mins he lost 2 grens with double shreks a puma 2 snipers and a tiger twas epic funny
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2008, 11:13:52 am » |
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To what? Shermans? And rofl lolto.  |
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| Wildfire
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2008, 11:50:37 am » |
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well there goes one good thing that this system helped lol no more spamming snipers, double schecks and ostwids
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| MasonDonn
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2008, 11:54:19 am » |
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well there goes one good thing that this system helped lol no more spamming snipers, double schecks and ostwids
Its just snipers. Last game i played, I counted 8 double schrecked squads and 4 osts. >.> |
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« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2008, 11:56:51 am » |
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Problem is, the new system makes snipers unviable. Not sniper spam, but a single sniper or two. I wonder if there is a way to apply to snipers some kind of piospam type penalty that affects accuracy or soemthing. That would be out there, but doable and might help, i dunno.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2008, 12:09:23 pm » |
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A hardcap would be the most viable of all, 2 snipers max. Who cares if it limits 'freedom' when it's obvious that making them horribly expensive simply makes them unviable. With a hard cap they could become a much cheaper unit again. Problem solved.
vCOH hardcaps some units as well, I see no reason why EIR shouldn't.
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« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2008, 12:16:14 pm » |
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a real availability system would do that, without the appropriate resources (aka back end coding access + skill) it should not have been attempted.
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| UnLimiTeDTLS
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« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2008, 12:21:23 pm » |
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I think sniperprice is just slightly to high, 10 Munition is fine with this system, as snipers get stronger with expensive HMGs and, mostly, the lack of Countersnipers.
Of course jeeps and bikes are still as common as they used to be.
While I am always against a limit for units, for Snipers it would be ok.
I'm also ok with dynamic pricing for them, which I am against on any other level aswell.
Let's say, each additional sniper adds 50% price, more than two would just cripple players.
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| MasonDonn
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« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2008, 12:22:34 pm » |
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a real availability system would do that, without the appropriate resources (aka back end coding access + skill) it should not have been attempted.
So, your saying we should have not had any change whatsoever to the game, and left it in its previous state for 4+months until fl- handed over the code (unlikely) or he returned?(also unlikely) |
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2008, 12:23:46 pm » |
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I believe salan already has access to it but simply doesn't have the knowledge.
Either way, there's other ways to make it work. I think you'll find that most will agree that the while EIR was in dire need of change, the chosen change was perhaps not the most ideal...
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2008, 12:25:46 pm » |
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Of course most will.
Just the poll to the topic didn't point out if the changes itself or the general direction is faulty.
I still don't know how more tanks will benefit the gameplay, I don't play more offensively if I know there could be a sherman or P4 or a Puma or Greyhound behind every corner.
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Wraith547
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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2008, 12:29:06 pm » |
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Sigh, how I love people that make posts about leaving. Particularly when it involves not being able to abuse a broken system anymore.
I think the only post anyone ever gave a fuck about was Fldash leaving.
My general response:
"It is unfortunate that (insert random balance concern) has made you feel this way.
Personally I don't actually care, but being courteous I will not point you out when you likely show up in two weeks posting and acting as if you never made a bitchy post claiming never to come back."
This is no different when all the people (myself included, I don't claim not to be guilty of this) said they were all leaving when retreat was changed to offmap only. People get worked up, but they generally get the itch eventually and slink back tail between their legs.
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2008, 12:36:56 pm » |
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shit I cant spam snipers? Hey spam backwards is maps. har QFT |
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| salan
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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2008, 01:59:39 pm » |
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i quit once and didn't come back for 6 months .. wait .. thats when OF came out!
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| bigbadboy
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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2008, 02:20:14 pm » |
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BYE?
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« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2008, 02:48:33 pm » |
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shit I cant spam snipers? Hey spam backwards is maps. har QFT |
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