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Author Topic: Marine436 Comp down.  (Read 4771 times)
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Marine436 Offline
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« on: December 17, 2008, 10:17:27 pm »

My comp went down im looking at a 24-48 hr with no system, current assumption is its the power supply


here is situation, im decently smart with computers if you think you know what it is let me know

was over heating, graphic's card was showing artifacts (random trinagles all over the screen) opened up saw a layer of dust greater than when the Dinos died to that meteor went to wallmart to buy compressed air

opened a can of whoop-ass compressed air on the   inside of the system, hooked system back up, system wont turn on at all now, doesnt even go to POST, the light on the MOBO still comes on, so im thinking its most likely the button between the power supply and the MOBO or also possibly the power supply or MOBO it self
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2008, 10:28:57 pm »

Here we go.

Dust = BAD!

Dust + Compressed Air = Dust flying all over

Its gets into things. Remove all cards and RAM, blow out system again including in the sockets. Plug back in all items, give it a shot. Dust likes to cause shorts on the board that will cause it to not do anything (Powersupply sees the short and will not turn on, this is good).

Should power up. If not, go back, remove cards and ram, go back through and put 1 DIMM in, try to boot. If it boots add the other, if it still boots add video card and see whats going on.

You can buy a PS tester for pretty damned cheap these days. Or you can go have it tested. I find that in most cases like this its the dust though. It gets into all those cracks and crevices when the pressure from the canned air is applied to it.

Get back to me when you get those steps done, and let me know whats going on.
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« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2008, 10:31:19 pm »

Should power up. If not, go back, remove cards and ram, go back through and put 1 DIMM in, try to boot. If it boots add the other, if it still boots add video card and see whats going on.

If I r not mistaken, bad RAM will go BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP non-stop till you shut the fucker off. Doesn't sound like his problem.
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2008, 10:34:32 pm »

Normally yes, but RAM DIMMs hate dust like no other, if that shit gets in the contacts it will cause a short as far as the PS is concerned. Its always best to add stuff back piece by piece to narrow down the issue.
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BoDyBaG2224TLS Offline
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« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2008, 10:35:32 pm »

You can go the Chaos route of. Computer broke, by new expensive one, discover all that was broke on old one is monitor, and then......well, what is he doing now?
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Dr.Nick1 Offline
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« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2008, 10:36:35 pm »

Can I have your comp if it broke? lol
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2008, 11:15:41 pm »

Here we go.

Dust = BAD!

Dust + Compressed Air = Dust flying all over

Its gets into things. Remove all cards and RAM, blow out system again including in the sockets. Plug back in all items, give it a shot. Dust likes to cause shorts on the board that will cause it to not do anything (Powersupply sees the short and will not turn on, this is good).

Should power up. If not, go back, remove cards and ram, go back through and put 1 DIMM in, try to boot. If it boots add the other, if it still boots add video card and see whats going on.

You can buy a PS tester for pretty damned cheap these days. Or you can go have it tested. I find that in most cases like this its the dust though. It gets into all those cracks and crevices when the pressure from the canned air is applied to it.

Get back to me when you get those steps done, and let me know whats going on.

makes sense will do and get back to you
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2008, 11:54:29 pm »

your idea ampm why a good one failed, im thinking its the power supply but the one reason id think not is the MOBO is getting that one light, my friends locally are telling me that doesnt always mean the case, of course its also possibly the MOBO it self


damn this is annoying i want to play
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AmPmTLS Offline
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2008, 11:59:33 pm »

Alright, so thats not the problem. It could be the power supply, do you have an extra? If not you can either buy a tester, pay to have it tested or do it yourself with a paperclip =)

http://www.duxcw.com/faq/ps/ps4.htm

You can try it at your own risk.

Outside of that, it could be the board/CPU, which for your sake I hope it is not.

Did it start up at all even with everything removed?
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2008, 12:06:21 am »

No it didnt start up

and ya i have 1-2 extra power supplys but if i recall they arent the 600 Watts i need

ya im bassically down to thinking its power supply first, the button to turn it on secound and the mobo\cpu third

the bad new's is under my giant heat sink i found a hair...

no idea how it got there


i did a test on the power supply even before my post but honestly im not sure i did it right and i returned my nehboors tester its too late now to go get it back
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2008, 12:06:50 am »

btw fail or succeed i appericate your help
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AmPmTLS Offline
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2008, 12:12:33 am »

So if its not the PS, then you are really down to the board, or the button. I have no idea how you would break the button.

Don't count a short out of the running though. Check the board, make sure nothing is laying on it.
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2008, 12:17:03 am »

A. i havent ruled out the power supply i just have no way of testing it, its accually my #1 concern

2. i just have a FEELING its the button but i cant ACCESS it from inside the computer its hard to explain but on the front side of the computer there is a double lair the outside case and the inside case, its between thoese two

3. i hope its not the mobo\cpu or the entier system, otherwise im screwed
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2008, 12:17:32 am »

o and 4th and most important what exactly would be on the board?
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2008, 12:21:25 am »

could hairs cause a short? ive found 3 hair's in there so far, i think i got them all, 1 mine (somehow between the heatsink and outer CPU) and 2 dog hairs (between the case and the sound card curlled up)

lovely ampm disappeared on me
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2008, 01:28:32 am »

anything that can sit across two circuits can short it. sorry, baby demands attention
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2008, 03:14:10 am »

NP, i saw you in a game on vent but then you disappeared!


No, no postion like that however i did find, Some adpter leading from the button to start the computer to the power supply's third prong is broken to the point the pong accually comes out

im now going under the assumption this is the problem

should be an easy fix
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2008, 04:08:48 pm »

was the mobo had to drop 180 on a new one (got a warentty with it) but i lost the ability to SLI in the future


still have to install it wiating to get a hold of some friends, if that fails soon im going to try it my self
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AmPM Offline
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2008, 04:29:59 pm »

Don't worry about SLI, the cost vs effectiveness is crap, you do not get anywhere near a 100% increase.
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Marine436 Offline
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« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2008, 12:13:13 am »

ya i know but its annoying, im online now had to format due to me stupiedy (not a big deal it had to be done anyways, it was over due)

however 32Gig's of porn have been lost in this tragic event
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