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Author Topic: Why VCoH Sucks?  (Read 14321 times)
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NightRain Offline
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« on: January 26, 2009, 06:43:21 am »

Discuss hereee why VCoH Sucks?
What makes it so damn bad?
Why do you prefer EiR Over VCoH?
Why Did you stop playing vCoh?

1# DropHackers
2# Noob Stompers
3# Smurfs
4# Only The Scheldt with High Resources and Fixed and full of n00b brits who comp/noob stomp
5# Blobs that always comes back
6# Stuff never ends
7# Arty spam
8# People with epeen higher than lv 100 = ("Omg Lets take 2vs2 I beet craph utta u!11!!11!!Eleven!!!1!!","Wanna 1vs1? I bet I beat u esily u n00b" etc x) )
9# Laggy players who still keeps high settings
10# No-teamwork

That's my top10! (Its more like top9 but bleh)
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Tymathee Offline
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2009, 06:45:57 am »

:looks into future: I see this thread being locked!
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Mysthalin Offline
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 06:49:03 am »

1. 1v1 Automatch is great, but cannot compare to EiRs teeth-grinding action.
2. Unfun team-matching capabilities. Who can spam more snipers faster contests.
3. Screwed up team match balance.
4. GameReplays.org chat kept sucking an hour of my life away when I would get into a pointless discussion how much G.W. Bushey suckey.
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CaiJiangJun Offline
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 06:53:16 am »

Just the balance and that relic does nothing to fix it. While EiR balance is not the best at the moment, its still better than vCoH with its gimmicky PE and Allies.
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Sach Offline
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2009, 07:07:19 am »

1v1 automatch stresses me out, I find it really hard to lose well at higher ranks. EIR is a calming drug in comparison.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2009, 07:17:09 am »

1vs1 automatch was awesome untill they added in Brits/PE and a whole shitton of shitty maps that you can't cancel out.
If I want to play just semois and angoville, let me, oldschool ftw.

I think gameplay wise it just sucks compared to EIR, 2vs2 AT can be quite amusing but anything 3vs3 and beyond turns into an incredibly spamfest. I also don't really like base building to begin with Tongue.
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Eternal Offline
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2009, 07:36:15 am »

1. Balance is impossible, some match-ups will always be screwed
2. In EiR, atleast it's only allies spamming
3. Evergrowing blobs of doom. Only counter is the evergrowing reign of arty
4. More arty and more blobs
5. Games are usually decided within 10 mins, especially 1v1s
6. Relic failing to fix obvious bugs that would be fixed by changing a number (1 sec arty for 4 freaking months!?!)
8. I dont like basebuilding either
7. And in the end, more spam, more blobbing and more arty
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Prydain Offline
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2009, 07:56:49 am »

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Why VCoH Sucks?
Because NightRain told us.

Don't like it? Don't play.
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EscforrealityTLS Offline
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2009, 08:41:23 am »

I like VCOH, Eir is better though.
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suckisucki Offline
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2009, 08:55:45 am »

this thread makes me smile

Discuss hereee why VCoH Sucks?
What makes it so damn bad?
Why do you prefer EiR Over VCoH?
Why Did you stop playing vCoh?

1# DropHackers
2# Noob Stompers
3# Smurfs

that is not coh that is EiR

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4# Only The Scheldt with High Resources and Fixed and full of n00b brits who comp/noob stomp

play ranked man

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5# Blobs that always comes back

blobbs of doom is maximized in EiR
play against airborne or inf company blobber
fireup as supression braking ability is the worst thing ever

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6# Stuff never ends

play ranked or VP games
stuff ends when 500 VPs are down

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7# Arty spam

did you ever played against massive usage of calliope in EiR or air supperior?

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8# People with epeen higher than lv 100 = ("Omg Lets take 2vs2 I beet craph utta u!11!!11!!Eleven!!!1!!","Wanna 1vs1? I bet I beat u esily u n00b" etc x) )

you should read in EiR chat or forums

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9# Laggy players who still keeps high settings

many EiR games even did not happen because people fail to forward ports

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10# No-teamwork

EiR teamwork consists of heavy team stacking

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That's my top10! (Its more like top9 but bleh)

you made my day with this
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4thRangerDivision Offline
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2009, 09:05:03 am »

Man I'm not comparing VCoH to EiR at all I'm just asking Why VCoH Sucks in your mind?

Suckisucki I've seen massive arty usage in VCoH More than in EiR and not only by brits but by calliopes and those were spammed (2 and when down 2 more!)

in EiR if you chase the blob away it won't come back. in CoH Retreat, heal, regroup, recrew, come back.

Ranked matches aren't really my taste, too much drophackers there...
Smurfs in EiR are rare. Even if I see someone I don' mind in VCoH every second is a smurf (almost!)

Stuff that never ends means: You build a tank, it dies, you just build another one on and on and on.
EiR Chat and Forums aren't that bad. As someone stated I've read Gamereplay.org chat and then in one game I got flamed by some Wehr player "PLAY MY FRIEND U NOOB ARAGAWAGAWAGAGHAWAGH SPAM SPAM" when he and his team mates got fried xP I don remember how that game ended...I guess someone drophacked it.

in EiR Most players have lower settings therefor good perf.

As well no team work= Players fight their own fronts and doesn't really help you that well...maybe gives you 1 squad but doesn't micro it...Stacking has nothing to do with this.

Glad that I made you smile and saved your day w00t
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ssystem Offline
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2009, 09:28:01 am »

Only #1 from your list is applicable and that happens here too. vcoh doesn't suck, I hate to say it but l2p noob.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2009, 09:31:16 am »

No need to bash him for liking EIR more than vCOH...
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suckisucki Offline
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2009, 09:36:05 am »

Man I'm not comparing VCoH to EiR at all I'm just asking Why VCoH Sucks in your mind?
you asked why someone prefer EiR over vCOH...so you compared it by yourself

ok my answer vCOH dont suck it gets a bit boring because the last patching was long ago and metagame and strats didn't changed

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Suckisucki I've seen massive arty usage in VCoH More than in EiR and not only by brits but by calliopes and those were spammed (2 and when down 2 more!)

and i run a 3 calliope EiR company by myself....i've seen huge arty usage in EiR

if something like red offmap smoke drops or calliope fire in vCOH you can hit retreat..but you cannot do that in EiR because units are gone...so many of them have to die for hopping some will still live after that arty and fight longer in a battle...

arty is much more powerful in EiR

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in EiR if you chase the blob away it won't come back. in CoH Retreat, heal, regroup, recrew, come back.

if a blob chases one of your combined arms unit in EiR u cannot retreat them using T and regrouping to make a counter push...the blob will mow down the unit
that works most effective on allied side
they can mob their units and send them in a huge blob around the map you can't really stop them with mgs (fireup charge or fireup nade) you cannot counterblob them (allied offmap arty or calliope or strafes) and you cannot keep your stuff together for fully effect of combined arms because the blobs will outcap you


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Stuff that never ends means: You build a tank, it dies, you just build another one on and on and on.

that is what strategical thinking and RTS games are about...
if one needs to spam airbornes you can counter it by building vet2 ostwinds until he reacts with countering it with an AT gun

in EiR the success is in somekind based on a lottery system and your guess what your opponent has in his company

if he has no tanks and rely on a combination of airbornespam and AT guns your shreks and at guns and panther or kingtiger are a kind of waste

it is not as bad as in games like medival2 where the counters are much more only hardcounters
but it is some kind of

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EiR Chat and Forums aren't that bad. As someone stated I've read Gamereplay.org chat and then in one game I got flamed by some Wehr player "PLAY MY FRIEND U NOOB ARAGAWAGAWAGAGHAWAGH SPAM SPAM" when he and his team mates got fried xP I don remember how that game ended...I guess someone drophacked it.

why you need to read in coh lobby ingame chats for vCOH but not for EiR? did i missed a point?
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2009, 10:12:59 am »

I think you're exaggerating the effectiveness of blobs in EIR.
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Arkanades
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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2009, 10:34:55 am »

If I get attacked by a blob I am a happy guy
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Killer344 Offline
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« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2009, 10:47:04 am »

suckisucki´s stupidity to misrepresent everything to his belief everyone here is either a noobstopmer, noob, drophacker or smurf is most impressive, and that blobbing here is way more effective than vcoh... is just hilarious lol.
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2009, 11:02:53 am »

I remember playing a 4v4 where in the end we were losing by far, because it was mostly a 2v4. Me and a friend as axis and 4 other teamers as allied/brits.
We had one mate, that left shortly after start and one guy that had no clue at all and didnt react to the chat.

In the end the enemies were camping our base and me and my friend were down to nothing. Our beloved retardo mate (playing PE) then started his comeback.
He asked us several times: "were is yur bass?" (original quote)
At the same time he attacked the massive allied army with ..... dun dun dun... a bergetiger.
In that moment my friend and i could not stop laughing our asses off at how dumb one can be.
He thought that his Tiger would kill them, well it was nice to watch it.
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aloha625 Offline
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« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2009, 11:04:14 am »

@ unknown:

1 blob (3 airbornes) is not very effective, thats right
a blob of 4 or more airbornes is very good evem they are at vet 1...

yesterday i played a game against 3 airborne and 1 infantry player: like most airborne (noob) players they were just blobbing ( 4 or more squads)
so there were 3 huge AB blobs on the field (they were all at vet1 or vet2)


they wtfpwned us  (killed some vet3 grens with lmg, stormies with stg44, just EVERYTHIG

this is not not necessarily an extreme case because u can also own everything with 1 AB squad (all vet1) and air superiority...

thats what i call bullshit, that has nothing to do with tactics, strategies and is extremely annoying
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aloha625 Offline
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« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2009, 11:05:45 am »

suckisucki´s stupidity to misrepresent everything to his belief everyone here is either a noobstopmer, noob, drophacker or smurf is most impressive, and that blobbing here is way more effective than vcoh... is just hilarious lol.

ahh, and thats why vcoh sucks?

stfu


pls mystalin dont respond to this post, i know ur so brainful caus u have so good english grammar skills  Lips sealed
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