v0.0.3 Changelog

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[SaintPauli]

Pioneers = .33 hps
Engineers = .5 hps
Sappers = .667 hps
Panzergrens = .45 hps
PG w/ Advanced Repair = .667 hps
Expert Engineers = 1 hps
Bergetiger = 1.5 hps

It is nice that you try to even out the repair rates but the PZ grens are lower than the rest. It is a 4 man squad and should be on par with the sappers. When upgraded to a “fighting squad” its 5pop and its only fair that the repair/pop is less. And what is with the expert engineers getting double repair rate of everyone else?
Repair station is not mentioned but is it also getting the pio nerf? Should price not reflect this?

Green HP - Repairs are 50% effective
Yellow HP - Repairs are 100% effective
Red HP - Repairs are 200% effective

This is a 50% nerf on most of the repairs… The 200% effective repair while on red health makes me worry. Will there be cases where a repairing unit can manage to repair the engine or main gun before the next short hit thereby giving the unit the ability to withstand another non lethal critical hit?  

[Mysthalin_Axis]

I don't have any glue about the units I play with, but I have quite a clue how to use them. Yeah, engineers destroy a plain PG squad 1v1 at close range, gogogo tactics? Just keep yourself at range, I'm pretty sure you'll have more PGs than he'll have engineers being thrown at you. It's a basic tactic called kiting. Just because the PG is weaker when completely vanilla than the other vanilla base infantry, doesn't change it's role - it IS basic infantry. If you detest the PGs, use the vehicles.
I don't think you realise that the reason the PE have poor repairs, is BECAUSE they're easily damagable. It's their one weakness. They have mobility and heavy hitting guns, pay for it in health and armor. You also for get that because they have lower health, they are repaired faster as well - from 50 to 100 percent, for instance, than the vehicles of other factions. With the new repair rates in different health levels implementation, the PE will get quite a nice buff over the other factions(for instance - I shoot you with a PIAT on your AC and you're in yellow health, you get full repairs, you shrek my cromwell and it's still in green, i'll have half repairs.

[CafeMilani]

first of all, good job

but the pio repair rate is quite too slow..

[CafeMilani]

yeah sappers the engiie with most men in squad gets the highest repair rate....thats fucking rediculess

More men.   More pop on field.  More repair rate.

Speee.
Shull.

well THEN engies schould cost more than pios and sappers more than engies!

[Sach]

you mean.... like they do.

[BigDick]

I don't have any glue about the units I play with, but I have quite a clue how to use them. Yeah, engineers destroy a plain PG squad 1v1 at close range, gogogo tactics? Just keep yourself at range,

yeah sure and the engies will stay at range....

I'm pretty sure you'll have more PGs than he'll have engineers being thrown at you. It's a basic tactic called kiting. Just because the PG is weaker when completely vanilla than the other vanilla base infantry, doesn't change it's role - it IS basic infantry.

and us players use only engies and no rifles or what?
lol it is a hybrid between engie and combat unit..as 3 men squad without upgrades it is an engie...when you upgrade it to 4 men and give it a G43 it become some kind of combat unit

but that is 225MP+70muni i would allways trade a 200MP 75muni bar 6 men rifleman squad against that
allways

If you detest the PGs, use the vehicles.

lol since the repair rates are fucking low and they take huge damage from fucking everything and u needed fucking 200 fuel for every at gun (now a bit lower)

man are you drunk or what? that is what i'm talking about
vehicles take so long to repair and get damaged by fucking everything quickly....

I don't think you realise that the reason the PE have poor repairs, is BECAUSE they're easily damagable. It's their one weakness. They have mobility and heavy hitting guns, pay for it in health and armor.

what? they have lowest repair rates because they get the most shit armour that gets damage by everything?

no drugs for you anymore

PIAT on your AC and you're in yellow health, you get full repairs, you shrek my cromwell and it's still in green, i'll have half repairs.

lol the AC don't survive one bren buttoning attack

[BradAnderson]

They do

@ Dick

its fucking useless to discuss with people like u

  I always thought that about myst until i actually started reading his posts, you are one faction biast son of a bitch! untill you play more than PE! shut your trap and play a different faction, christ sake your heads so far up your ass the lump in your neck is your fucking nose.

[EscforrealityTLS]

Storm troopers got their suppression recovery, I love you guys!

(In a non-homo way) <3

[narref]

so...

pios
.33 repair rate/2pop= 0.165             .33 repair rate/110mp = 0.003
engies
.5 repair rate/3pop =  0.166              .5 repair rate/110mp   = 0.0045



also combat effectiveness of          flameengies< flamepios
also survivality of 1 engie squad<1 pio squad
also when a pio is lost 50% less efectiveness of repair
when a engie is lost 33%3 less efectivenes of repair

something FAILS here


and there're also the sappers

with

.667/4pop= 0.167    .667/185mp= 0.003630     (still better than engies...)
when sappers are absolutely more effective on combat than engies....

if pop cap is "balanced" why not cost?

[Bubz]

Storm troopers got their suppression recovery, I love you guys!

(In a non-homo way) <3

Hurrah they lost their only weakness!

[OrdobalticusTLS]

Well... we will always have some form of "my faction is weak... buff please". That is inevitable and sometimes usefull.
The truth is we all need more experience with new armies (PE and brits). Because they are very different from old ones.

Patch seems good for brits. It fixes lack of brit non-doctrinal long range indirect attack via adding 25 pounder. Also emplacement get a bit more resistant to mortars, just enough time to pack and move away (well sometimes not enough). All in all now brits at least got a chance vs mortars: either avoid them or counter-bomb them.

Axis got reduction in skirts ammo cost ,that is good news to axis tanks and ammo hungry infantry. It also brings gloomy future of man packed AT of allies. It seems rr have lost some appeal.

I'm not sure but shouldn't piats get slight ammo price reduction? They are the only brit hand held AT equipment that only works on clumsiness of axis or succesfull use of combined arms (button+lt).

[CafeMilani]

uhm why do allies engies and sapper srepair faster while axis have the bigger tanks (more hp) stupidstupid..

[BigDick]

Storm troopers got their suppression recovery, I love you guys!

(In a non-homo way) <3

Hurrah they lost their only weakness!

their weakness is that they are  suppressed easily
i understand that point that they still get very easy suppressed but don't crawl for hours after supression unit is gone

[Bubz]

That's a bug, not proper of them, it happens to both sides.
I misread I thought it was suppression taken.

[BigDick]

That's a bug, not proper of them, it happens to both sides.
I misread I thought it was suppression taken.

i don't talked about the crawl bug
i talked about the modifier for recover from supression

[EscforrealityTLS]

They had the worst suppression recovery in the game, the Beta patch for vCOH changed it so it is now in line with Grens.

[UnLimiTeD]

its fucking useless to discuss with people like u

That just made my day 

Feel the ignorance! WAAAHG!

[rai0]

F00 and victor target still not workin 
played in st_vith .

 r

[Mgallun74]

hmmmm, m8 skirts more than stugs or iv's?  blah


so now they can have 4 marders? is the gun still OP with 150 damage?

[CafeMilani]

OP? the gun is strong but it has shitty armour and shitty hp and is shitty.