Sach
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« on: February 22, 2009, 10:38:27 am » |
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As far as I can tell from coh stats, vet 3 on lieutenant does nothing and the vet in eir really doesn't add much. I think the vet 3 on captain makes it worth it but for lieutenant, why spend the PP. What do you guys think?
Lieutenant (1.5)
1 Received Accuracy 0.85 - Heroic Assault
2 Health Regen 0.028
3 Aura Radius +10
Captain (1.5)
1 Received Accuracy 0.8
2 Upgrade Armour to Infantry Elite
3 Veterancy gain in sector 1.2 - Artillery Cooldown 0.8
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Sach Wins!  Would people please stop killing my AVREs. Not cool.
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 10:40:09 am » |
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+10 Allows you to give that awesome bonus from an even safer range.
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| Sach
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 10:42:00 am » |
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whats its normal radius as reference?
I usually try and give my lieutenants schrecks anyway so being far back is irrelevant.
As it is, i certainly wont be getting vet 3.
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| Khorney
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 10:45:37 am » |
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what else do you spend the PP on?
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Unkn0wn
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 11:15:47 am » |
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His base radius is 30. I usually try and give my lieutenants schrecks anyway so being far back is irrelevant. It helps in keeping him alive as usually people will focus fire on him, especially when he's that high vet he'll be a huge target. That being said, this veterancy is only temporarily as a new list is being worked on. |
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| Sach
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 11:30:41 am » |
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what else do you spend the PP on?
saving up for armour unlock so i can get a god damn at gun in my first call in |
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| Khorney
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 11:50:48 am » |
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heh, i'm vetting my guys up as i get them, otherwise they might die in the next game without any of the upgrades. it may take a couple of days more to get my 30 pp, but i do like looking after my vet chaps. it's therapeutic. like gardening. and enraging when they get gunned down ;_;
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 11:58:45 am » |
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xD 4th topic complaining about brits underpoweredness?
well, brit in is OVERPOWERED or UNDERPRICED
in vanilla its 450 MP for a good reason
in EiRR, where it can vet up TOO, its even more OP for 260 MP per squad
try a vet 3 LT + 2 vet3 tommies (with bren or riflenades) out, u'll see, u can kill everything
the aura of the LT and captain or the vet of tommies or the price of tommies need to be nerfed. srsly...
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| Khorney
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 12:02:22 pm » |
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i always look forward to your posts aloha. try a vet 3 LT + 2 vet3 tommies (with bren or riflenades) out, u'll see, u can kill everything 1. how often do you see that? 2. no shit. ignoring that, tbh, i don't think lieutenants need anything changing on them, they do enough as is, especially if you have more than 1 buffing squads |
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| Sach
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 12:15:53 pm » |
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try a vet 3 LT + 2 vet3 tommies (with bren or riflenades) out, u'll see, u can kill everything
If you can now explain why the vet 3 lieutenant makes it more powerful than a vet 2 lieutenant then congratulations you've managed to stay on topic and not just pushed your own agenda! |
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 03:46:21 pm » |
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that aura, will help you and Your teamates... RighT? So bigger aura means 2 seperate ppls vet 3 LLts will actually support teamates..> And since its a support unit, That would make sense sach...
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Puddin' spamtmi cant really blame smokaz i mean playing against puddin is like trying to fight off breast cancer. You might win and do it and be a bad ass but you'll feel sick and mutilated forever.
Puddin' spamtm is soulcrushing... what's hard to understand about that?
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| Khorney
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« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 03:53:47 pm » |
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Lt's don't affect teammates units, only your own. it would be so badass if it did though, if not OP.
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2009, 08:49:07 pm » |
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that aura, will help you and Your teamates... RighT? So bigger aura means 2 seperate ppls vet 3 LLts will actually support teamates..> And since its a support unit, That would make sense sach...
Aura does nothing for your teammates. And yes vet 3 LT is pointless. I just leave them at 99xp. |
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| gamesguy1
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2009, 08:54:46 pm » |
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xD 4th topic complaining about brits underpoweredness?
well, brit in is OVERPOWERED or UNDERPRICED
in vanilla its 450 MP for a good reason
in EiRR, where it can vet up TOO, its even more OP for 260 MP per squad
try a vet 3 LT + 2 vet3 tommies (with bren or riflenades) out, u'll see, u can kill everything
the aura of the LT and captain or the vet of tommies or the price of tommies need to be nerfed. srsly...
Tommies are 450 mp in retail because you get one squad for free(everyone else gets a cheap capping/builder unit) and tommies are very cheap to reinforce compared to their build cost. Reinforcing 5 tommies at 35mp/each costs 175 mp, reinforcing 4 PGs at 45mp/each costs 180 mp. In addition, tommies have better retreat modifiers compared to everyone else. They get a 75% dodge when retreating instead of a 50% everyone else gets. If you are any good at vCoH you'd know all this already and have realized thats why tommies cost so much. Relic made a mistake giving Brits a 450mp unit to start with so they balanced it by making tommies expensive to build, but cheap to reinforce and very hard to wipe out(the squad). But then again, you are a hopelessly biased PE player so I should've expected this I guess. |
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2009, 02:51:27 pm » |
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3 Veterancy gain in sector 1.2 - Artillery Cooldown 0.8
does vet gain affect us units or is that brit units only? |
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| Halfling
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2009, 03:34:19 pm » |
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nobody seems to be interested of answering of the developers..  |
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| Scyn
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2009, 03:36:08 pm » |
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I honestly couldn't tell you. I've had no luck being able to tie the animator for Brits to the US units. I do know for sure LTs in US companies don't gain veterancy unless they kill things themselves. As for the Bonuses I cannot be sure.
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2009, 03:42:45 pm » |
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I can do more testing, of course.
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