Khorney
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« on: February 24, 2009, 12:11:57 pm » |
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in EiR they used to be cheaper than a Sherman, now they are 400 MP? i understand reducing their availability to 1 to prevent spam, but they arn't any more powerful...they still get wasted by shrek infantry which are usually mixed in with their intended targets, meaning they are only effective in very specific situations. If someone can justify it, fair enough, but i don't see how they are worth their cost.
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| Bubz
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« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 12:31:46 pm » |
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When there are no schreks cloacked paks on the field croc is so damn good man. (Unfortunately it doesn't seem to kill grenadiers like in retail, lol)
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| Khorney
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« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 12:37:39 pm » |
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When there are no schreks cloacked paks on the field croc is so damn good man meaning they are only effective in very specific situations i mean, how often does that happen? i see your point, but i don't get why they are so expensive. |
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| LordMalgoroth
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« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2009, 01:34:38 pm » |
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When compared to Axis AT and its churchill counterpart, the sherman croc does seem a little underwhelming.
Urban maps is where it shines.
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| Bubz
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« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2009, 03:08:01 pm » |
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Err no Urban maps are a trap, just think about in and out schreked grens who wehrmacht players like so much.
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| Wiking1FJ
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2009, 03:14:52 pm » |
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Back in EIR i used to run 2 crocs, now i just take shermans. No point, you never see a group without at least 2 shreks in it. At least the sherman you can kite a bit.
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| Khorney
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2009, 03:17:52 pm » |
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do the devs/testers have any comment?
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| LordMalgoroth
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2009, 03:30:42 pm » |
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Err no Urban maps are a trap, just think about in and out schreked grens who wehrmacht players like so much.
Urban means close quarters where grens are vulnerable. Plus, the croc roasts garrisoned units so easily and it's hard for Paks to cover all the alleyways and approches. |
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Killer344
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2009, 03:47:57 pm » |
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Urban maps means they can garrison a building, shoot at the croc and get out before the croc notices it.
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If I get shot and it's a gay medic fixing me up, he's not gonna be fondling my balls while he does it. You can't patch a chest wound and suck a cock at the same time.
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| Bubz
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 03:52:43 pm » |
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Urban maps means they can garrison a building, shoot at the croc and get out before the croc notices it.
Exactly, also retarded pathing is a pain in the ass in urbans |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 03:53:27 pm » |
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i think schrecks still suck against crocs.. and shermans too :S
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| EscforrealityTLS
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 03:57:05 pm » |
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So you want to buff schrecks?
Crocs kill everyone in a building before they get a chance to get out if they where shooting at something when the croc shows up. You can't just jump in, shoot, jump out.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 03:59:52 pm » |
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So you want to buff schrecks?
Crocs kill everyone in a building before they get a chance to get out if they where shooting at something when the croc shows up. You can't just jump in, shoot, jump out.
no i dont want to buff schrecks, just saying that: 1 croc or 75mm sherman > 1 double schrecked squad |
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| Bubz
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2009, 04:06:07 pm » |
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Crocs kill everyone in a building before they get a chance to get out if they where shooting at something when the croc shows up. You can't just jump in, shoot, jump out.
Actually you can, players tend to boom rush with croc only because chargin with infantry too is going to get suppressed and killed in a boom second, I am out even before you turn the turret to me. Maybe in combination with a mortar smoke barrage they might be able to get out alive. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2009, 04:09:17 pm » |
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That's fair enough, but schrecks are one of the best man packed at anti tank options in the game on a relatively sturdy platform. But yeah they should never be able to take on a full health anti infantry tank by them selves, ever.
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| Bubz
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« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2009, 06:55:46 am » |
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Err I actually they do and pretty well too.
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