Reinforcements [Now i get it]

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[Duckordie]

Not after like 40 games i understand what you guys mean with Reinforcements.
Not like "eir:Reinforcements" but just Reinforcements.
So... I am Wher, and I can buy PE units?
Ehhhh? Wtf?

So one player can have Rangers and Airborne? O.o

Is it just me or do some one ells dislikes this Reinforcements thing.
I find it... Wrong
And it hard to spot also
Whats the point of it? Have a source of PP cost?

I feel its against Eir to be abel too play two factions sides with 1 company.


Why cant we have veir with the 2 new factions and the new combat system?
Right now I miss it a bit

[VariantThirteen]

You aren't the only one that dislikes it.

I really don't like it much at all. Encourages too much diversity, and too little specificity. On the whole, I don't like how the PP system has worked much, I think a lot of the old problems with EiR could have been fixed with simple numbers changes, and not a massive overhaul like this.

[puddin]

Hello? 

Knock knock... Mc Fly Anyone there?

Do you have to purchase reinforcements? No.  Do you have to purtchase PE if your Wher?  No.  In fact it can Increase Spoecificity by making Availibility more of blitzkrig by allowing another Stuh, So heavy Support by adding MGs. 

Reinforments were ment to add Some diversity if you want it. 

Yout don;t have to have it.  You can use ur PP on availibility and forego Reinforments and vet too, Increasing your narrow vision on only certain units.... 

Rienforments are ment to allow a slight twist so that you can diversify if you want with the availibility and suprise people.  One game you don;lt use any PE units, the next you have 2 Falls swquads. 

Not to ,mention its only a few squads.... More they need PP for plus you need the resources ffor it.

[jackmccrack]

Yeah man if you want more specificity you can always choose your same doctrine again as Reinforcements.

[EIRRMod]

The entire PP system isnt in.

First we balance the units, and the In reserve / supply rates - which control spam.

At the moment, there are no other PP sinks, so it doesnt work quite right yet.

Patience grasshopper ;p

[Duckordie]

pp system is better than having a guy with twice as much Resource than you

But mixing units.. Naaah man. C mon man (Apex style)

[Duckordie]

Its more like, Now i can have a scout car that heals my grens (wher)
Its just perfect

[Killer344]

It is... and I love it, so? I had to pay for it.

[Tymathee]

like puddin said, you don't have to have it.

but still...i'd like a chance to get rid of it if i dont want it as I'm not too hot on my brit reinforcements, i just dont use 'em. I might when the rb's get in but for now, nah, too expensive.

[jackmccrack]

Its more like, Now i can have a scout car that heals my grens (wher)
Its just perfect

Exactly.

[Tymathee]

and now I can have a firefly with my rangers...watch out panthers.

[VariantThirteen]

Hello? 

Knock knock... Mc Fly Anyone there?

Do you have to purchase reinforcements? No.  Do you have to purtchase PE if your Wher?  No.  In fact it can Increase Spoecificity by making Availibility more of blitzkrig by allowing another Stuh, So heavy Support by adding MGs. 

Reinforments were ment to add Some diversity if you want it. 

Yout don;t have to have it.  You can use ur PP on availibility and forego Reinforments and vet too, Increasing your narrow vision on only certain units.... 

Rienforments are ment to allow a slight twist so that you can diversify if you want with the availibility and suprise people.  One game you don;lt use any PE units, the next you have 2 Falls swquads. 

Not to ,mention its only a few squads.... More they need PP for plus you need the resources ffor it.

My point wasn't that it enforced diversity, but that it encouraged too much of it. When players have highly effective units to plug deficiencies in their army available through Reinforcements, they are very likely to use them

It's not even that I have to use it, it's that the vast majority of players are going to use it. I liked in old EiR that players were super reliant on one another to produce balanced forces, but now they can produce an internally balanced force with reinforcements.

I'm also not saying I liked old fashioned oversupply and resource/vet whoring, it's just the reinforcements haven't quite worked out in a way that suits what I liked EiR for. I'm sure it has for others, and that's cool - personal preference.

[Unkn0wn]

I don't think any army has or should have any deficiencies. Especially Americans and Wehr don't need reinforcements to be powerful armies, I bought reinforcements on my allied account but still haven't found a need to use them. On my brit account however I am very much looking forward to getting them.

[Mysthalin]

I don't think any army has or should have any deficiencies. Especially Americans and Wehr don't need reinforcements to be powerful armies, I bought reinforcements on my allied account but still haven't found a need to use them. On my brit account however I am very much looking forward to getting them.

Problem with Brits, then.

To be honest, I agree fully with VariantThirteen - reinforcements were a cool idea at start, now they're just blatantly annoying. They shouldn't have come in until full doctrines were implemented - they should have actually been the last implemented thing, IMO.

No army should rely solely on reinforcements to become viable, and I currently only see reinforcements as a trunk card when arguing that PE and Brits are "viable" because of unit combination X+Y when taking the other faction's reinforcement.

[BigDick]

reinforcements are the only way PE get half way competitive with the other factions

unfortunately they get all the usefull stuff in different reinforcements

paks without hmgs are some kind of "unsupported"
pe lacks in AT guns without fuel costs (pak38->defensive)
pe lacks in supression (mg42->terror)
pe lacks in "tanks" (stuh42, panzerIV -> blitz)

brits get with one reinforcements (armor) at guns and tanks were PE need blitz+devensive
and PE has not such nice things like cromwell or stuart and if brit is commando they have mobile supression too

[Unkn0wn]

It's the same way for Brits actually, unless you play commandos, then you don't need that hmg/mortar that airbourne offers.

[BigDick]

It's the same way for Brits actually, unless you play commandos, then you don't need that hmg/mortar that airbourne offers.

it is not the same

the 17pounder are not that mobile but they have no fuel costs....brits habe tanks like cromwell and firefly and light "tanks" like stuart

since they can get some kind of at guns without fuel and they have some kind of tanks, they can get AT guns and Tanks by default

PE need their fuel for their AT guns (marder) and their halftracks so they cannot get expensive tanks (like Panther) or good infantry support tanks (like cromwell just the crap PE-PanzerIV when they would not need fuel for marders)
they cannot get mg nests by default and they have no doctrine with hmgs

i see your point that brit has some kind of mobile AT gun problems and mobile supression problems too....

but as PE you need all three reinforcements to compensate that

as brit you go commando for mobile hmg and mortar and commandos and tetrach...you have the firefly+cromwell default and get armor reinforcements to extend your force by shermans (preferable upgunned) and two mobile recrewable at guns...

[Akranadas]

Don't worry about it Escforreality. I fixed it.