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[Two]

DasNoob wants replays of game balance have this one, ownage rep but that is how all my games will be from now on, im selling all my tommies and spending all pp's on more sappers/commando piats, counter this bitch.


This uploading aint working



http://files.filefront.com/new+balancerar/;13511867;/fileinfo.html


And again vs smokaz

http://files.filefront.com/desyncrar/;13511864;/fileinfo.html

[deadbolt]

this requires a fail snail v_@

[Smokaz]

I second this. Piats are a balance issue right now. They kill infantry not only on direct hits, the splash damage hurts them as well. When massed they become both AI and AI. They also frag mgs, etc its ridicolous

[Nevyen]

Just to clarify Piats are reflected as they are in the beta, so im intrigued about thsi sudden inbalance,  spalsh damage and modifiers against infantry are the issue?

Can we get some exact numbers up pre and post beta around the piat, please don't link of refer to another website, if you want to influence somehting here post up a stats comparision here so we can look at it.

On the Piat only keep it focused and no random crap otherwise ill stop reading the thread.

[DasNoob]

I'll keep it cleaned nev   And thank you for your replay sir!

[Tymathee]

i have seen no issue personally but if this is so, will you change it back, reduce splash or make it more pricey? Cuz personally...hell,, its kinda cool that the piat can do that now

[Two]

Just to clarify Piats are reflected as they are in the beta, so im intrigued about thsi sudden inbalance,  spalsh damage and modifiers against infantry are the issue?

Can we get some exact numbers up pre and post beta around the piat, please don't link of refer to another website, if you want to influence somehting here post up a stats comparision here so we can look at it.

On the Piat only keep it focused and no random crap otherwise ill stop reading the thread.

I have no idea about the stats or that but i think it could just be due to the numbers involved, fire enough piats and they are bound to hit something. I actually have no idea if this could have worked before, i saw piat buff and just expected them to own so i spammed them and it worked  .

[salan]

reduce splash

we never touched splash so why would we reduce it?

[DasNoob]

Some of what you are using are commando Piats, I think the Sten guns that the other two squad members held did a lot of the damage.

There was a little splash damage done in the first game.

Going to watch the second one now.



Your opponents were lacking in their "crowd control" units.

[DasNoob]

Second replay:

-4 piat squads deal ok damage to a PG squad in open ground no cover.

-almost 0 damage to medium cover

-and 0 damage to heavy cover.


So while there is some splash damage given to the Piat, I would say that the blob factor was greater than the actual weapon's AI capability.  As soon as you come up against some opponents that actually use HMG/Mortars well, then you'll be in for it

Thank you for the replays and as always we will be keeping a close eye out if there continues to be a problem. 

[Two]

nope, captain stops suppress long enough for me to walk away and then i can call lt arty on it. Ill post more replays, u should make it easier to save them i cba going into my directory and uploading all teh time


And dont commandos have 2 piats and 1 sten gunner?

[Smokaz]

Yeah I know that we lacked mgs in that game, I also commented upon it ingame (who has less than six mgs in their wehr comp??)

[31stPzGren]

An Ostwind, rapes the british like no tomorrow.

[Two]

a panther dies in 1 and a half barrages, ost dies in less then half a barrage from ze blob

[salan]

how many piats in the blob, because I would guess a allied tank dies to a blob of shreks just as fast..

blobs eat tanks .. eee

[Two]

as many piats as i can call in :p But shreks cant own inf like piats can

[gamesguy2]

how many piats in the blob, because I would guess a allied tank dies to a blob of shreks just as fast..

blobs eat tanks .. eee

Ya but you can kite the shrek blob.

Much harder time kiting the piat blob, they have very short fire aim timer the same as RRs.

[31stPzGren]

The way to kite Piat blobs with Ostwind is to remove the officer first and move whenever you see the piats firing. The trick is to keep your ostwind at maximum range.

Move your ostwind OUT of range, not into range. I've seen and experience this first hand myself so don't tell me that an ostwind dies in less than 1 barrage.

[Unkn0wn]

It seems to me like they deal more damage.

[Bubz]

the more the merrier I say