The blob / spam / simcity business/ definition

[Guest]

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever

Login with username, password and session length

[sgMisten]

Broadly speaking, every faction has 3 major categories of units:

[1] Infantry
[2] Support Weapons
[3] Vehicles

Except that:

British support weapons = emplacements
PE support weapons = vehicle based

It's quite amusing to see people talking about blobs and support weapon spam and simcity. You can't really spam vehicles unless you're PE, but they blow up so easily that no one complains.

It was 'shreck blobs' last version cause they were more effective, now it's 'brit blobs' because piats got a big buff.

Then wehrmacht 'support weapon spam' and 'simcity'. No one complained about simcity last version, because it died easy. Now there is because it's tougher.

My final 2 points:
[1] People don't have a choice; it's either infantry or support weapons for most of the match -.-

[2] Cries of 'blob' and 'simcity' and 'spam' is related to effectiveness of the weapons of that group of units versus the opposition.

Thank ye.

[Schultz]

You forgot american arti spam followed by support weapon spam.
Mg after mg, and atg after atg guarding calliopes and howitzers back.

[Tymathee]

 ^ lulz don't get me started on schreck blobs, hmg spamming, nebel spam, mortar spam, etc etc,

[AmPM]

I'm Tymathee, I can't play that well and all Axis are overpowered!!! RAAAWR!! AXIS = OP!!!

Seriously, other than emplacement build times being retarded because they instant heal when rebuilt its fine.

[MannfredvonRitter]

It isn't even if they're possible to kill that's the problem. It's quite simply that they make the game shit and not fun.

Before you say that the British are fine in terms of balance, ask yourself why almost everyone with an allied account are playing Brits now....75% infact.

Ask why they all spam Piats and FOO. The answer isn't because it's perfectly balanced.

Wehrmacht can easily tackle emplacements....well not easy but it's more than possible.

Try countering a Bofors + 17pndr + Blob as PE against an average to competent player......enjoy. Two possibles: Mortar HT and Hummel.

[NightRain]

Try countering a Bofors + 17pndr + Blob as PE against an average to competent player......enjoy. Two possibles: Mortar HT and Hummel.

You forgot one thing.

Quick Rush.

Not that it works all the time but someone MIGHT be lucky to tackle that sim city before it gets built

[RikiRude]

you have a 15 second time span to make that attack though.

[EIRRMod]

Before you say that the British are fine in terms of balance, ask yourself why almost everyone with an allied account are playing Brits now....75% infact.

I actually ask myself how you got those statistics.

Id actually say (with *real* information) that the real spamming is by WM.

SQL data says:

Americans	125
British	161
Wehrmacht	192
Panzer Elite	137

[Smokaz]

What a huge shock to learn that wehrmacht is the most played faction.. 

[gamesguy2]

Before you say that the British are fine in terms of balance, ask yourself why almost everyone with an allied account are playing Brits now....75% infact.

I actually ask myself how you got those statistics.

Id actually say (with *real* information) that the real spamming is by WM.

SQL data says:

Americans	125
British	161
Wehrmacht	192
Panzer Elite	137

Can you say pwned?

Wehr has been OP since reinforcements was released.  And I'd also like to laugh at schultz complaining about American support weapon spam when he is probably the biggest wehr support weapon spammer in the game, and the wehr version is far superior.

[gamesguy2]

Try countering a Bofors + 17pndr + Blob as PE against an average to competent player......enjoy. Two possibles: Mortar HT and Hummel.

I killed a 17pounder/bofors combo with two G43 PGs.  Two AT nades insta-raped the 17 pounder, brought in a tank later to finish off the bofors.

Bofors simply does not do enough damage to be a deterrent against rushing.   You can't have an infantry battle in bofors range, but you can easilly rush in and shrek/AT nade an emplacment and run back out.

[Unkn0wn]

I learned that the hard way, AT nades have got to be the cheapest and most effective solution to emplacements.

[Mysthalin]

As they were in vCoH!(Aside from marder spam, but that's not cheap).
Who could of thunk?

[MannfredvonRitter]

Before you say that the British are fine in terms of balance, ask yourself why almost everyone with an allied account are playing Brits now....75% infact.

I actually ask myself how you got those statistics.

Id actually say (with *real* information) that the real spamming is by WM.

SQL data says:

Americans	125
British	161
Wehrmacht	192
Panzer Elite	137

And how many people played Brits/Americans before the patch? I bet it's substantially less than current.

People always play wehrmacht a lot, because most games feature Americans, user bases are alienated by that and go the opposition team, also to take down the 'favoured' team. I don't play Americans because I don't like them, same with the British. It wouldn't matter how weak the opposition was.

[Unkn0wn]

Poor americans are on the brink of extinction.

[Akranadas]

I play the Americans, you just can't use the old tactics of past EIR (Ranger/Airborne spam) but you can make them kick ass. AP rounds > ENTIRE PE army.

Americans are more about combined arms than the other armies, you have to use Riflemen, HMGs, Mortars, ATGs and Engineers to be effective. They are probably the only army that can't ''blob'' effectively

[MannfredvonRitter]

I play the Americans, you just can't use the old tactics of past EIR (Ranger/Airborne spam) but you can make them kick ass. AP rounds > ENTIRE PE army.

There's a heirachy in EiR currently.

1. British
Followed Closely by:
2. Wehrmacht
3. American
4. PE

Everyone gets to hate on someone except PE, they're the self hating emo kid who wishes he was tough and could wail on people.

Now now, i'm sure someone is a tough net guy who pwns x with y. But we're talking averages here . ATG + HMG = Dead PE. Esp with the 'everyone dies' in an IHT thingo.

[Ununoctium]

There's a heirachy in EiR currently.

1. British
Followed Closely by:
2. Wehrmacht
3. American
4. PE

Everyone gets to hate on someone except PE, they're the self hating emo kid who wishes he was tough and could wail on people.

Now now, i'm sure someone is a tough net guy who pwns x with y. But we're talking averages here . ATG + HMG = Dead PE. Esp with the 'everyone dies' in an IHT thingo.

AT+mg+open field. PE does well if there aren't large empty spaces. that's why i never play on unknowns maps... no offense, but empty spaces are abundant in them.

PE does have some glaring issues atm... AC being one-shotted by everything... Inf Ht no longer is and infantry support unit but an outright weakest Armour unit in the game... PE's AT options are very.... obscure compared to the other armies. you cant retreat crew on an atht or marder and you cant reman it. and you cant stickey an AT gun...

but PE is my main army for this patch and i will play them to the end. which usually is very soon after the beginning.

[Dragon2008]

I LOL when people still complain about shrek blobs. I never see any axis side shrek blob or people think shrek blob when its actully 2 squads with one shrek each. No axis playing can afford to shrek blob cos its so impratical and a waste of MP. Not to mention they r so expensive just for one. So people who shout shrek blobs r people that don't relize its 2 squad with 1 shrek each or people who don't know what there talking about. The shrek is so expensive I can only afford like 4-5 for my entire company. I could have more but I would not be able to by support weapons or anyother kind of AT or unit abilities.

[Mysthalin]

Random much?

What you don't do doesn't mean others don't either.

Noone would ever call 2 sheks total on the field, on two seperate squads "shrek-blobbing". When it's 4-5 shreks on 2-3 squads, it becomes a shrek blob. And people aren't really complaining about them(you'd have 4-5 threads asking for a nerf, if anyone really complained), as they have been fixed to not snipe tanks at max range any more.