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[stickymaps]

so when im at the log in screen of the client i type in my name and pass and it says incorrect version plz run auto updater, but i have run it many times. and it still continues

[Tymathee]

eir isn't working right now.

[Unkn0wn]

Tales of Valor broke it unfortunately

[nugnugx]

devs , any luck with 2.501 ?   hope f#@!!@ relic won't kill eir 

[Duckordie]

I just came home from the Army.

Is EiR broke? Can it be fixed?
Yes/no

[Killer344]

No, relic needs to fix the *Anti-Cheat* thing to allow mods with custom Dlls.

[Unkn0wn]

They also fucked up the WB

[Draken]

Btw watch why they added that anti cheat system. And why some players like keeps went so far in leaderboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBzFcRCIBwE

If he was using maphack in EiR, it explains ideal counters for all your callins.

[Unkn0wn]

Its called a jeep.

I honestly dont see how maphacks win you games, you'll still need skill to be able to beat another good player.
This is something I experienced in EIR with the R+ meeting engagements, starting with a jeep to scout out their units to then bring out the 'ideal' counter, when your opponent brings out a balanced starting platoon, there is NO weakness to exploit and the best you can do is bring a similar balanced starting platoon yourself...

Same in vCOH, you can expect what most people will be bringing and when it will be coming, it's called metagame. Let's say you play against wehrmacht, starts with a WQ duh, calls in HMG then volk volks. Is that a surprise? Are you now magically going to be able to beat him by default?

Sure, don't get me wrong, you wont get 'surprised' by hmgs in buildings or by snipers and/or flanking manouvers but it's still not going to win you games.

If someone cheated on resources, magically called down artillery early game or started with shermans I'm sure you would be able to tell he was cheating .

[Draken]

Sure maphack = jeep 

You even know how it works?

Wow unk you are talking like u were using it, I mean you are defending it.

Sure every cheater can say that cheats doesn't win games, u have to still do something to win, but it gives unfair advantage. Los on whole map in EiR is not huge advantage in your opinion?

This is something I experienced in EIR with the R+ meeting engagements, starting with a jeep to scout out their units to then bring out the 'ideal' counter,

Yes I experienced it, its epic fail when u are behind your enemy 1 minute and he already got for example town in abby, and you are bringing your counters. There is just no point decent players bring mixed starts with at + inft + support weapons. It has only point when you bring jeep with other units, not just lonley jeep then "best" counters.

[Tymathee]

wow that's insane and just wrong...kinda funny though. Just awesome rocket barrage/arty on his base i know he was like "wtf???"

[Unkn0wn]

I'm not defending it, I'm simply stating that maphacks dont win you games.

Los on whole map in EiR is not huge advantage in your opinion?

It's like super omniscience, yes very powerful but if you're a crappy player it wont make you win


I think you havent played enough vCOH to understand. Deadb0lt may be a drophacker and a maphacker as some claim but he's still a very solid player despite that. So why do good people cheat you ask? Good question, maybe its the fear of losing their streak/rank or they just want extra security for a win.

Cheating is wrong in every way and cheaters should be banned but a lot of the cheats some 'top leaderboard' players use are not the kind of cheats that turn a shitty player into a pr0, that's my entire point. A shitty player would need obvious cheats to win games, shittons of resources, free off-map spam and whatnot.

In addition, dead0bolt acquired lvl 20 again after the anti-cheat system got put in. So the anti-cheat is either pretty fail or maybe he doesn't actually cheat?

[Draken]

nvm,

all cheats make sync error atm

[Akranadas]

It doesn't matter how good you are at a game; if you cheat to gain an unfair advantage; your scum.

[Tymathee]

I agree. Cheating/exploiting borks gameplay

[Draken]

Just to nicely sumarize this topic:

[Mysthalin]

Unknown, I don't know how you can defend having approximately 50 unarmed jeeps across the map for no resource/popcap cost(OK, let's say 50 unkillable vampires then)... He doesn't even need a jeep to mortar you precisely, he doesn't need jeeps to cali you precisely where you are, and you dare even start to defend it? He knows your exact starting callin, you might be bringing a motorcycle/jeep of your own, you're instantly down 3 popcap compared to his force, being on worse footing than he is(he doesn't need to search for you, he knows exactly where you are, from the start, you need to find his shit, and you don't see it early). He sees you start with a normal start of 1 HMG, 1 Pak, 1 shrek, 1 mortar, 1 LMG. He wtf rushes you with 3 stuarts/3 greyhounds, you either die or retreat. How will you even require skill to kill his pak(which you see all the time so you know when you can attack it, and what direction to attack it from) and shrek, when you're overwhelming him that badly? Do not defend cheats - defend the person that he does not cheat, but do not ever show such lowness as to defend cheating as still needing skill. Anyone who cheats deserves a permanent ban from the whole gaming network - go back to compstomping in Mario with invincibility.

[Unkn0wn]

I never defended it, learn to read, I'm simply stating that it wont make a shitty player pr0. It's already good, solid players who use these cheats as an extra 'security' check for getting a win. They could probably win tons of games without it and still reach a high leaderboard spot but they couldnt live with losing a streak/rank/getting too many losses. It's just as pathetic of course, but give the maphacks to a newb and he'll still be a newb.

You guys are a pain in the ass to to discuss this with, learn to look outside the box.

[Bubz]

A n00b who can see where your units are, pretty good advantage to coorinate attacks and push 
Anyway I think Relic have just replaced one set of OP units with another, skill isn't important anymoar, just buy ToV and rape non-ToV Users.

[Unkn0wn]

Thats hardly the case man, most of those TOV units are kind of shitty from what I've seen.
There's some exceptions but things like the schwimmwagen SE are overrated, maybe its just a problem in 1vs1 but its definitely no big deal in 2vs2, just gives you a slight head start.

Its most powerful against Brits attempting to relocate their bases to high resource points (which I dont mind tbfh) and on 1vs1 maps where you can easily cut off your enemy with a single strat point. (Like ango, etc)

I'd say the hotchkiss is a shitty unit by the way, tried it the other day and it was very underwhelming.