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[Malevolence]

What does king tigers have to do with medium tanks?  I said cromwell by itself is the worst medium tank in the game, because thats fucking true.  It has the worst penetration, worst armor, mediocre anti-infantry, and shitty accuracy on the move.   Both PIV and sherman has .75 accuracy modifier on the move, but cromwell has .5.   

But it does shoot really fast when it isn't moving :p

[gamesguy2]

What does king tigers have to do with medium tanks?  I said cromwell by itself is the worst medium tank in the game, because thats fucking true.  It has the worst penetration, worst armor, mediocre anti-infantry, and shitty accuracy on the move.   Both PIV and sherman has .75 accuracy modifier on the move, but cromwell has .5.   

But it does shoot really fast when it isn't moving :p

Its also a really good way to die to shreks in 10 seconds.

[BigDick]

that is actually bullshit wrong informations like always in this forums

the cromwell has an better splash than the sherman
his moving accuracy is not that good but the same is for some axis tanks like tiger tiger ace kingtiger and stuff

the cromwell always raped infantry u just using it wrong

This is typically bigdick bullshit lies like always.

Cromwell splash: 3/1.25/0.75.  Accuracy modifier vs infantry: 0.65
76mm splash: 3.3/1.5/0.75.  Accuracy modifier vs infantry: 0.75

brit fruit

a sherman is comes with a 75mm gun

that is 3/1/0.25

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bullshit
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As usual, bigdick is wrong.

as usual wrong gamesguy brit fanboy postings

[gamesguy2]

brit fruit

Ya because I don't play other factions.  My vet 3 hummel is just a myth.

a sherman is comes with a 75mm gun

that is 3/1/0.25

And a P4 doesn't come with skirts, so it can't be upgraded right?

Nice of you to ignore the rest of my post that shows how terrible the cromwell is.   Because splash is the only thing that matters on a tank right?   Things like accuracy, moving accuracy, armor, penetration, etc don't matter?

as usual wrong gamesguy brit fanboy postings

Your name suits you well.

[Schultz]

If you wanna compaire sherman and cromwell compaire them either vanilla or both upgrades. You bring in the 76mm upgrade for the sherman quite naturally to support what you say, yet the cromwell tank commander upgrade or the command tank that fit this argumental comparison can stay out cause its just awesome, right.
Well BigDick's got the name, but other people has the grace

[gamesguy2]

If you wanna compaire sherman and cromwell compaire them either vanilla or both upgrades. You bring in the 76mm upgrade for the sherman quite naturally to support what you say, yet the cromwell tank commander upgrade or the command tank that fit this argumental comparison can stay out cause its just awesome, right.
Well BigDick's got the name, but other people has the grace

Command tank is entirely different from a munitions based upgrade.  And I've already stated that cromwell with command tank is awesome against infantry because it can kite really well with the extra range.

Tank commander upgrade still does not allow you to stop the cromwell to avoid the moving accuracy penalty while kiting.  76mm sherman is still far superior to the cromwell with tank commander in every single possible way.  It has more than double the penetration, it has far superior accuracy against infantry while kiting, and the sherman armor actually matters against a P4, which has a good 40% chance to bounce off a sherman where as a P4 has over 100% chance to penetrate a cromwell.

Cromwell is so terrible I've had them lose 1v1 to upgunned pumas. 

[Schultz]

Command tank is entirely different from a munitions based upgrade.  And I've already stated that cromwell with command tank is awesome against infantry because it can kite really well with the extra range.

Tank commander upgrade still does not allow you to stop the cromwell to avoid the moving accuracy penalty while kiting.  76mm sherman is still far superior to the cromwell with tank commander in every single possible way.  It has more than double the penetration, it has far superior accuracy against infantry while kiting, and the sherman armor actually matters against a P4, which has a good 40% chance to bounce off a sherman where as a P4 has over 100% chance to penetrate a cromwell.

Cromwell is so terrible I've had them lose 1v1 to upgunned pumas. 
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Tank commander on cromwell is amazing. You cannot lose to schreks when proper kiting micro. Flanking speed circle strafes all.
Command tank makes cromwell a huge killing machine.
Bottom line is cromwell tank is not crappy. It has different uses, different approaches and strategies. Its not a sherman. And at the end its up to the player to decide what suits him better.
And my point was if you wanna compaire an upgraded sherman, im gonna take an upgraded cromwell, and guess what the command tank serves that role along the tank commander and flaking speed.
So again bottom line is theres no comparison between units capitalizing on different abilities and strengths, and unique upgrades.