gamesguy2
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« on: May 03, 2009, 09:46:16 pm » |
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It seems like the first strike bonus of 10x penetration and 1.25x damage lasts for three shots now. This was never the case. The pak first strike bonus in the history of CoH has only ever lasted one shot. It remained camoed for three shots, but the damage/penetration bonus was only for the first shot.
Is this a bug or is this intentional?
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Nevyen
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2009, 09:50:15 pm » |
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How did you determine this was the case?
can you show a specifc rgd or is this game experiance.
cheers nev
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2009, 09:55:07 pm » |
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How did you determine this was the case?
can you show a specifc rgd or is this game experiance.
cheers nev
Game experience, I looked at the RGD but the cloak was way too complicated for me to figure out.  Also lucifer said he was going to make it last three shots I think a few days ago, because he thought the cloak gave it the penetration/damage bonus for three shots, which is not the case. |
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EIRRMod
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2009, 10:11:59 pm » |
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The cloak was to last 3 shots, and if there was extra damage on one or three shots, that was going to remain status-quo.
The pak is now a completely different animal.
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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Malevolence
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2009, 10:36:38 pm » |
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If by different you mean "cloaked rape gun" then yes, it is.
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Akranadas' Greatest Hits, Volume 1: Vet has nothing to do with unit preformance. We are serious about enforcing this, and I am sure you all want to be able to have your balance thought considered by the development team with some biased, sensationalist coming into your thread and ruining it. |
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2009, 10:37:38 pm » |
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The cloak was to last 3 shots, and if there was extra damage on one or three shots, that was going to remain status-quo.
The pak is now a completely different animal.
In that case it should be extra damage and penetration on one shot. |
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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2009, 03:26:28 am » |
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- remove pak38 it is useless anyways now
wehr can rely on AT of pe (for the lolz) |
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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2009, 03:36:14 am » |
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- Remove BigDick for Naysaying.
lolz.
Useless? You mean useless as a SCOUTING unit.
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« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2009, 03:43:24 am » |
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- Remove BigDick for Naysaying.
lolz.
Useless? You mean useless as a SCOUTING unit.
useless because it cannot turn...useless because of that much arty...and useless because if you want to "dodge" arty you have included another delay to make it even more difficult with support weapons |
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« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2009, 03:46:47 am » |
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Btw who the fuck used the pak to scout? Someone who wanted it to be overrun by inf? Or someone who wanted to it use as minedetector? Sounds like pakrush seemed to be a good tactic.
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« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2009, 03:50:58 am » |
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Sniperdetector!
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« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2009, 03:55:59 am » |
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So, useless as an AT weapon? I dont think you mentioned that one.
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« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2009, 03:56:24 am » |
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Btw who the fuck used the pak to scout? Someone who wanted it to be overrun by inf? Or someone who wanted to it use as minedetector? Sounds like pakrush seemed to be a good tactic.
exactly who will use this expensive unit (400MP 140mun compared to e.g. 6pnd 380MP 110Mun) to be overrun by a riflesquad and taken over by a half one, for scouting? just remove it and let axis fight tanks using volksgrenadiers |
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« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2009, 03:58:16 am » |
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"pak scout" is a myth... never seen anyone use it
it's just allied mentality " o noez uba pak from hell teleported behind mah tank!!"
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Nevyen
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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2009, 04:03:04 am » |
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interesting point of view, seeing as i have been on axis sides that used it
and more to the point the change does not effect good axis play
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« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2009, 04:12:35 am » |
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lol at pak scout. I remember one game a teamate moved his pak for scouting purposes. Smart move cause it was overun and captured by rifles.  I think youre confusing pak aggressive use with scouting. |
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« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2009, 04:16:32 am » |
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BigDick can you tell me what is your account in game, because I've never seen you playing this game.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2009, 05:54:50 am » |
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the first strike bonus lasts for 3 rounds now, quite annoying tbh.
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« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2009, 06:45:12 am » |
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precision strike isnt undogable, ive yet to be hit by one, it has smoke and a massive delay from teh smoke, with its single precise shot its easy to dodge, not like it could randomly hit you while you leave.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2009, 07:07:19 am » |
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as i already said, it had the cloak ability because of allied arty which will shoot it when a sherman detects it when flanking
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