CafeMilani
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« Reply #140 on: May 06, 2009, 07:31:21 am » |
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which bug theory?
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #141 on: May 06, 2009, 07:41:07 am » |
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Seeing as it's easily abuseable by the axis players, and you're not known for your honesty while playing, aloha, I'll rather keep quiet about it.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #142 on: May 06, 2009, 07:46:50 am » |
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what is abuseable?? explain pls how is the pak abuseable 'anymore'? so: pak was never OPed but they nerfed it--> price decrease? comment on this pls eirmod "by the axis players" ofc ur an allied fanboy  |
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EIRRMod
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« Reply #143 on: May 06, 2009, 07:56:11 am » |
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what is abuseable?? explain pls how is the pak abuseable 'anymore'? so: pak was never OPed but they nerfed it--> price decrease? comment on this pls eirmod "by the axis players" ofc ur an allied fanboy Comment on this? Im not your fucking slave buddy. Hows that for a comment? |
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Shit I'm pretty sure you could offer the guy a cup of coffee and he'd try to kill you with the mug if you forgot sugar.
That's like offering Beer to fuck the fat chick. It will work for a while, but it's not gonna last. Not only that, but there is zero motivation for the Fat chick to loose weight.
Why don't you collect up your love beads and potpourri and find something constructive to do.
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #144 on: May 06, 2009, 09:13:35 am » |
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sorry  could u pls give me feedback on the post above eirrmod? |
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Akranadas
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« Reply #145 on: May 06, 2009, 09:17:34 am » |
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Pak can turn while cloaked; no price changes.
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Malevolence
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« Reply #146 on: May 06, 2009, 12:37:18 pm » |
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PaKs are lame, fix the problem with free shots not with mobility...
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Akranadas' Greatest Hits, Volume 1: Vet has nothing to do with unit preformance. We are serious about enforcing this, and I am sure you all want to be able to have your balance thought considered by the development team with some biased, sensationalist coming into your thread and ruining it. |
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AmPM
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« Reply #147 on: May 06, 2009, 01:24:50 pm » |
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Or the bonuses from the cloak applying to so many shots.
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« Reply #148 on: May 06, 2009, 01:56:00 pm » |
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Yes please, sherman's down to less than halfhealt in two shots.
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« Reply #149 on: May 06, 2009, 03:25:13 pm » |
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Actually it's more than half health. Slightly.
115 x 1.25 = 143.75.
2 shots = 143.75(2) = 287.5
Sherman HP = 636
636/2 = 318
287.5 is less than 318.
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gamesguy2
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« Reply #150 on: May 06, 2009, 08:32:57 pm » |
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Seeing as it's easily abuseable by the axis players, and you're not known for your honesty while playing, aloha, I'll rather keep quiet about it.
Is this the vcoh bug that carried over we were talking about yesterday? |
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #151 on: May 07, 2009, 09:29:46 am » |
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Dunno which one you're reffering too, but I can say that if this was exploited you could one shot pershings  . |
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« Reply #152 on: May 07, 2009, 09:37:37 am » |
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The bug with Pak uber damage doesn't affect us.
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Mysthalin
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« Reply #153 on: May 07, 2009, 12:00:15 pm » |
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Either it does, or pak first strike lasts for more than that first shot.
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AmPM
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« Reply #154 on: May 07, 2009, 12:11:05 pm » |
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It lasts a lot longer than first shot  |
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« Reply #155 on: May 07, 2009, 01:02:14 pm » |
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It lasts for 15 seconds. Same as in 2.301. In 2.502, it lasts for a 'duration' of 0, every time cloak is entered. This is the cause of the Pak bug in retail; continually entering and exiting cloak applies the bonus, for unlimited duration (while in cloak.)
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Illegal_Carrot
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« Reply #156 on: May 10, 2009, 12:07:05 pm » |
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Honestly, I think this is a bad change. I don't personally like the way PaKs work now, it's rather obnoxious having to spike your APM to use PaKs with their cloak ability effectively with repositioning.
I still say put the cloak back to how it was and make it reveal after one shot, maybe reduce line of sight if scouting is an issue (which apparently it isn't, and thus made this particular change 100% unwarranted and pointless).
This. Malevolence has suggested this multiple times throughout the thread, and according to what you Devs are describing as the 'problem,' Mal's suggestion is 100% the correct answer. If you're not going to implement these changes, could you at least explain to us why? |
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Malevolence
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« Reply #157 on: May 10, 2009, 01:51:26 pm » |
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Hear, hear!
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« Reply #158 on: May 10, 2009, 01:53:35 pm » |
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Whose to say that it hasn't already been implemented and awaiting the next patch?
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #159 on: May 10, 2009, 01:54:54 pm » |
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please, PLEASE make a change log of all changes this time.
how exactly will u chang ethe pak now?
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