Bren Carrier MMG

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[RikiRude]

Probably the most useless unit in the game right now. Easy way to fix it? Give it HT armor, or maybe puma armor? That seems to be the thing to do to turn normal units into super units.

Anyways, as it stands you are paying 270 MP 60muni and 35 FU on what is pretty much a shitty mobile MG with two guns that never shoot at the same thing with the SMALLEST shooting arc. You can also buy very over priced AP rounds for 50 munis, yes that's right, that costs more then AP rounds on a 57. Not to mention these things are about as strong as a jeep. These things get tore up from all kinds of small arms fire.

Now lets compare it with a pretty similar vehicle. The IHT. IHT only costs 210 MP no muni and 35 fuel. Same pop cap on both vehicles as well.

That's right for less MP, no muni, and the same fuel you get a vehicle with half track armor that can stand up against small arms fire and take about 3-4 ATG shots and suppress well with a decent firing arc.

Something is VERY wrong here.

So all around the bren carrier is THE MOST unused unit in the game, I see way more kettens then I see of these units. Please show the brits some love and rework these units so they actually see some sort of use.

[AmPM]

While it could use a slight MP price decrease, it can also button and eats up PE support units pretty fast.

[Mysthalin]

an IHT never takes 4 ATG shots, heh..
But IHT = 3 pop, Bren MMG = 4 pop.

At any rate, yeah, the bren MMG is pathethicaly useless for it's price.
It doesn't eat anything fast at all, it get sniped by any form of AT on the field the second it comes to the front line. For a suicide 5 second "replacement button" it's too expensive as well.

[RikiRude]

I bet you a infantry section with bren guns will hold out longer buttoning something then the bren carrier, they do it for 30 munis cheaper too.

And it does not tear ANY thing up. Please prove me wrong, I sat there shooting at 2 PG squads out in the open at one point and took forever to suppress then and only killed 1-2 guys.

[CafeMilani]

no it can button, thats a huge advantage and its damage output is very high

[Smokaz2]

Its pretty useful against PE actually, if you have button tommies around.. AP rounds wtfrapes both inf hts, pumas and armored cars. It's just that EIRR is literally crawling with munitions based AT so its too risky to bring out bren support when the shrek blob charges you. It could probably go down to 3 pop without causing any problems since its much less durable than the inf ht.

[spinn72]

i used one, they can get kills. 

I'd rather go with the lower health, but increase the supression of it.  It's always used as a support vehicle.  I reckon if it supressed quite well (like it was possible to pin people not in cover) then i would use it much more.

I'd rather buff it then decrease the price.

[AmPM]

But you don't want it taking the place of the MG team.

It does pretty decent suppression already if its supporting.

My issue with it is the MP cost.

[Malevolence]

I would go so far as to say reimplement the simultaneous AP rounds and button on the Bren MMG. PE vehicles are now basically immune to damage from the button alone, so why not?

[AmPM]

Not true, only the IHT is.

Everything else gets killed by AP rounds really fast. Hell, they die to rifles even.

[Sharpshooter824]

They only get killed by rifles if you leave your mortar HT sitting in front of them for 2 minutes.