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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2009, 10:02:21 am » |
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Baine
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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2009, 10:07:33 am » |
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It's really way too cheap if it's only 170 mp and 150 fuel. Why not give it the same price the GWG has, as they both have the same job, killing other tanks. So 400 mp and 200 fuel would be ok.
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brn4meplz
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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2009, 10:08:12 am » |
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im ok with the tank, ofc its a tank destroyer. but for 150 fuel and 270 mp?...
And an M10 is 300/170fuel |
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| Mgallun74
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« Reply #23 on: June 08, 2009, 10:11:01 am » |
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imho, it shouldnt cost more than a m10.. because.
1. its slower... it moves like a turd...
2. like others said, its hitbox is larger, meaning it dies faster than m10
3. from what i read, its only the first shot that is good like that, others are lower than m10.
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« Reply #24 on: June 08, 2009, 10:22:32 am » |
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It's penetration while not cloaked is extremely bad, take a look: http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:76mm_HellcatPenetration/Distance: Long = .4 Medium = .55 Short = .65 It's chance to penetrate a Panther is .4 base. Multiply this by the distance and you get some shitty penetration. At close range it's about .26. Against a Panzer 4 it has a base chance of 1.09. Multiply again by the distance and you will get its final penetration for each. THUS, the M18 Hellcat's power relies on its cloak. I petition that we change its name from Tank Destroyer to Tank Defender. Oh yes and as Mgallun says, this thing moves like a turd. |
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Smokaz
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« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2009, 10:25:34 am » |
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Just think of the m18 as a cheap crappy version of the hetzer
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2009, 10:26:46 am » |
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But oh so much cooler.. I personally like having a good ambush tool as US so I think its fine, the cloak is fine |
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« Reply #27 on: June 08, 2009, 10:27:48 am » |
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Yes, I agree.
I like the Hellcat a lot even though I do not expect mine to survive any game.
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| Mgallun74
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2009, 10:32:14 am » |
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I swear relic's coders were on drugs when they did this TOV stuff... lol.
the m18 was the fastest tracked vehicle of the war.. and it moves like a turd and has this goofy cloak.. i would prefer a fast moving TD with the same gun as the m10 over the cloak imho... i can do a decent job and pot shoting panzers with m10, imagine something a bit faster with better accel.. yum yum.
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2009, 10:51:40 am » |
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Actually, switching the stats of the Hellcat and M10 completely would make it perfect.  |
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| BigDick
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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2009, 10:59:16 am » |
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It's penetration while not cloaked is extremely bad, take a look: http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:76mm_HellcatPenetration/Distance: Long = .4 Medium = .55 Short = .65 It's chance to penetrate a Panther is .4 base. Multiply this by the distance and you get some shitty penetration. At close range it's about .26. Against a Panzer 4 it has a base chance of 1.09. Multiply again by the distance and you will get its final penetration for each. THUS, the M18 Hellcat's power relies on its cloak. I petition that we change its name from Tank Destroyer to Tank Defender. Oh yes and as Mgallun says, this thing moves like a turd. that is pretty much the same like a marder or geschtzwagen has against a sherman (with lower accuracy 0.75 vs 0.9 on M18) or not far away from that what a hetzer has vs a sherman with the difference that a hetzer does only 87.5 damage and the hellcat 142 |
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| Mgallun74
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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2009, 11:02:35 am » |
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It's penetration while not cloaked is extremely bad, take a look: http://coh-stats.com/Weapon:76mm_HellcatPenetration/Distance: Long = .4 Medium = .55 Short = .65 It's chance to penetrate a Panther is .4 base. Multiply this by the distance and you get some shitty penetration. At close range it's about .26. Against a Panzer 4 it has a base chance of 1.09. Multiply again by the distance and you will get its final penetration for each. THUS, the M18 Hellcat's power relies on its cloak. I petition that we change its name from Tank Destroyer to Tank Defender. Oh yes and as Mgallun says, this thing moves like a turd. that is pretty much the same like a marder or geschtzwagen has against a sherman (with lower accuracy 0.75 vs 0.9 on M18) or not far away from that what a hetzer has vs a sherman with the difference that a hetzer does only 87.5 damage and the hellcat 142 112.5 dude.. not 142. |
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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2009, 11:05:18 am » |
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I swear relic's coders were on drugs when they did this TOV stuff... lol.
the m18 was the fastest tracked vehicle of the war.. and it moves like a turd and has this goofy cloak.. i would prefer a fast moving TD with the same gun as the m10 over the cloak imho... i can do a decent job and pot shoting panzers with m10, imagine something a bit faster with better accel.. yum yum. So basically you want an M10. |
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2009, 11:06:09 am » |
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dude when you have no clue than stop posting
its 112.5 basic damage with an 1.25 damage modifier against ostwind panzerIV panther tiger...
means 141damage
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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2009, 11:13:12 am » |
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dude when you have no clue than stop posting
its 112.5 basic damage with an 1.25 damage modifier against ostwind panzerIV panther tiger...
means 141damage
ahhh. my bad. again, relic must have been on drugs or high when they did these stats lol, i look at all the modifiers, and ya.. ok. |
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CafeMilani
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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2009, 11:55:41 am » |
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even mgallun says they must be on drug--> theres something wrong.
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2009, 12:16:54 pm » |
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even mgallun says they must be on drug--> theres something wrong.
lol, hey, its with axis too buddy... i.e. marder gun. and wtf is a Geshitswagen? |
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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2009, 12:34:10 pm » |
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Geschtzwagen! You guys gotta learn some German! Damn yanks!
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| BigDick
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2009, 12:36:24 pm » |
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the other name would fit even better since this thing is really shit for its price
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Sharpshooter824
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2009, 12:37:26 pm » |
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He's saying Ge-****swagen... not misspelling it baine..
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