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8thRifleRegiment Offline
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« on: September 01, 2011, 11:48:28 pm »

Im still trying to figure out why the british have a standard artillery peice. That is very potent and powerfull.

I mean it fit into the vcoh metagame becuase of the base building and the role it fit.

But Its a little stupid that all 3 doctrine gets a nondoctrinal artillery peice that can devastate with great effect, even if its range isent soo great, its still a non doctrinal artillery peice.

I dont think it has a place in todays metagame. It should only be avalibale for RCA.
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2011, 12:19:26 am »

Agreed!

British already get the Mortar and Riflenades. What more does a grown non-RCA man need?
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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2011, 12:40:28 am »

Why does wher get the nebel?

Why does PE get the most OP arty piece the hotch stuka?
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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2011, 12:50:30 am »

What the hell is todays metagame?
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Scotzmen Offline
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2011, 12:53:32 am »

Maybe becuase the axis side get arty across the board aswell?

Come to think of it. Axis get everything accross the board. Elite infantry in the form of KCH and Aussualt grens.
Havy tanks in the way of panthers

To get that for allies you gatta go specific docs.
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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2011, 01:03:57 am »

Why does wher get the nebel?

Why does PE get the most OP arty piece the hotch stuka?

I want to see Nebel turn whole squads into dust with its piff and burn rockets. Nebels whole purpose is just to suppress and pin before attack. Otherwise it is just a minor annoyance.

Why do allies get the most OP Arty piece the Calliope? With maingun what can I say? Grin plus PE needs some luv its anti tank gun counters are quite limited
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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2011, 01:08:26 am »

Maybe becuase the axis side get arty across the board aswell?

Come to think of it. Axis get everything accross the board. Elite infantry in the form of KCH and Aussualt grens.
Havy tanks in the way of panthers

To get that for allies you gatta go specific docs.

Hey buddy. realise that the differance between a nebel and a 25 pdr. i fire a nebel at yer doods, retards sit there for 30 secondes and die. YOu hit me with 25 pdr? it can kill everything from a tank to a dude. its multipurpose. It just doesnt fit into the metagame if your not RCA. And scotzmen, how about you actually play the recent metagame before you comment on it. Panthers are near obselete with the amount of HVAP and atgs running around. and slowly the amount of RRs are increasing too.   
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« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2011, 01:23:59 am »

but seriously, this

Maybe becuase the axis side get arty across the board aswell?

Come to think of it. Axis get everything accross the board. Elite infantry in the form of KCH and Aussualt grens.
Havy tanks in the way of panthers

To get that for allies you gatta go specific docs.

ur upset they get an easily killed short range artillery that can't move...while all axis arty is mobile. Yeah it doesn't do great damage like the 25 or 105 but thats the design diff. axis shorter cooldown, mobile, does great vs armor. allies get longer cooldown but are wedge busters.
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2011, 02:11:09 am »

What is this new metagame everyone is talking about?
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Scotzmen Offline
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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2011, 03:03:20 am »

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Hey buddy. realise that the differance between a nebel and a 25 pdr. i fire a nebel at yer doods, retards sit there for 30 secondes and die. YOu hit me with 25 pdr? it can kill everything from a tank to a dude. its multipurpose. It just doesnt fit into the metagame if your not RCA. And scotzmen, how about you actually play the recent metagame before you comment on it. Panthers are near obselete with the amount of HVAP and atgs running around. and slowly the amount of RRs are increasing too.

No where did i refere to the meta game. I was simply stating the availabilty of units without doctrines needed and the allies opposite.

Regarding my knowledge of the meta game, i have no care for. Im in such a time zones there are few players on meaning i pretty much miss the meta game.
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« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2011, 04:02:19 am »

We're actually looking into reworking this, to make it more like the nebelwerfer. (Then RCA will get the normal 25 P again)
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 05:01:51 am »

Don't really mind. Never considered 25 pounder to be very good. The thing is unreliable.

Now the american 105. Thats a splendid unit. So capable. Love it.
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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 05:28:03 am »

/\ guy making thread actually thinks this is a capable unit.

25p needs RCA to be of any worth. Other than that with its shit range I usually get 1 barrage off seeing how close it has to be before dieing, that or I have to put it in the back with such a limited area to attack, meaning It would still get 1 barrage off anyway. Who cares if its hard arty if you hardly ever get to do anything with it.


If I wasn't RCA id rather have a nebel.



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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 07:40:56 am »

make it into a pack howitzer that can move real slow like the 17 lbr and fires only 4 shots with a 2 minute cooldown. done
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 08:30:02 am »

I'd rather just see the 25 stay the way it is and be exclusive to rca rather than being nerfed.
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« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2011, 09:02:18 am »

I'd rather people stopped fucking with the established mechanics of the game tbfh.

If you want mirror balance that badly, go play a same faction match on C&C.
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« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2011, 09:03:34 am »

I think 25 pdr should stay on all doctrines, because it has such short range. Only RCA gives it +120 range, making more of a "arty" piece, not an overglorified mortar.
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Spartan_Marine88 Offline
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« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2011, 10:18:13 am »

You may call the nebel useless, but at the very least it will destroy that 25 pdr your finding annoying. And i have seen Nebels do surprising things, they are just random
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« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2011, 11:53:28 am »

I don't get it, if 25P is available to all doctrines.... why does the T1 say you can buy mortar pit and 25 pounder??
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« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2011, 12:05:44 pm »

because no one fixed teh tooltip
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